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UK election results makes PAP look democratic

In Political governance on 10/06/2015 at 4:44 am

At least here, the choice of the majority of voters gets to govern.

Anti-PAP cybernuts (like OXYGEN, Dosh), their heroes (Mad Dog Chee, s/o JBJ), rational activists opposed to the PAP (Yes, there are many like SDP’s Dr Paul Thamby and Dr Wong Wee Nam, Dr Ang Yong Guan, P Ravi, TeamTRE etc), and most neutral political analysts bemoan the system here: with only 60% of the votes the PAP won 81 seats (93%) of the seats at the last GE. The WP with 12% of the vote won 6 seats. And although the Oppo had 40% of the vote, these 6 seats were all they won. This pattern is consistent in all the elections since 1959.

Well the UK, is supposed to be a bastion of democracy but in the last election

— In Scotland, the SNP had only 50% of the votes but won 56 out of 59 seats (Labour lost 40 seats). 50% of the voters ended up with only 3 seats.

— In the country as a whole, the Tories had only 37% of the vote, yet have a 12 seat majority over the combined opposition share of the seats. 63% voted against them, yet the Tories formed the govt.

Makes PAP’s 60% of popular vote and 93% of the seats look more “democratic”, a lot more. At least 60% of adult S’poreans voted for the PAP. And don’t you forget that OXYGEN and the other cybernuts infesting TRE, sctounging off and undermining TeamTRE’s efforts to make S’pore a less PAP friendly place.

In the UK, even if they all formed a coalition, the Oppo had less seats than the Tories. But that’s not all. If Labour had gotten 37% of the votes instead of 30%, and had not lost 40 seats in Scotland, it would have likely won the election. In that case the 63% who did not vote Labour would have to accept a Labour govt.

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  1. Nothing wrong with this system. It forces the electorate to make up their minds about which direction the country should take. The only problem in Singapore is rampant gerrymandering. This raises questions about the winning party’s claim to have a mandate.

  2. This is the inherent weakness of first pass the post. I believe in Singapore and Malaysia one can win 80% of the seats available with less than 50% if is is in the right spread.

  3. Same Same but Different

  4. That is how democracy work. Even if proportionate representation is introduced, it will not deny the government to the party with the largest share, albeit short of majority of the popular vote.

    The issue of the SNP sweep in Scotland has a lot to do with DevoMax – maximum devolution of powers without leaving the UK. One can say the Scots have cleverly put pressure on Westminster in order that negotiations over DevoMax go their way.

    The real issue of the exercise of democracy is not simply how the government is formed but the role of the free press without which there can be no democracy. In that essence, democracy in SG is a fake one.

    • SNP shows that a party with the right idea can upset in a big way. In our Context, the SDP has the right ideas (looking at it as retiree, not a young man would have to pay increased taxes), but Mad Dog still has no cred with the Tan Cheng Bok voters. S’poreans’ First got some good ideas and can have cred, but it doesn’t have the organisation on the ground.

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