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TJS should listen to the Toilet Man

In Uncategorized on 19/12/2016 at 4:36 am

TJS spams at regular intervals using his Facebook stuff a closed group on Facebook of mainly moderate S’poreans who in the main voted for Dr Tan Chin Bok and would vote for him if allowed to  to. They understand economic trade-offs and are more than happy to accept lower growth, in return for FT controls. They kicked out Jason Chua of FATPAP with him accusing them of criminalising support for the PAP.

His stuff annoys many of them. They don’t like his TRE, juvenile cybernut style of personal attacks on the PM without supporting evidence, only his rants, as they see it. Recently one Adrian Tan responded by posting my piece about him being a cybernut, adding that TJS’s like Roy Ngerng. Must invite that guy to guest write here. My kind of guy as the posting seems to have annoyed TJS (see below).

A longish thread ensured with TJS responding. He accused commenters of making personal attacks (Cannot imitate him isit? Waz sauce for an elite like him, not sauce for plebs who don’t live in bungalow houses like him isit?)

In the thread (and another related)  there were comments from the Toilet Man (Jack Sim) rebuking TJS.

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Jack Sim, Founder of World Toilet Organization (WTO), has been a successful businessman since age 24. Having achieved financial success in his 40s, Jack felt the need to change his direction in life and give back to humanity – he wanted to live his life according to the motto “Live a useful life”. Jack soon left his business and embarked on a journey that saw him being the voice for those who cannot speak out and fighting for the dignity, rights and health for the vulnerable and poor worldwide.

http://worldtoilet.org/who-we-are/founder/

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Three stand out, and I hope TJS* takes to heart Jack’s comments (though from his response to JS, I doubt it):

Why don’t you speak about the National Regeneration Plan more with the public instead of writing articles that are discouraging without any positive outcome?

And

Jee Say Tan I’ll avoid personal attack. The reason was your recent posts were personal attack on the PM without real substance. As many writers here have expressed they’ve seen nothing constructive in them as compared to your National Regeneration Plan. We’re all Singaporeans and want to see Singapore become strong and healthy. When we destroy our leaders we destroy ourselves. When we criticise or advise, we do it with good intention to make Singapore better. Our opposition parties must not merely oppose. It must offer better solutions.
Things like investing in the young start-ups is already done but without gumption as a national culture, these start-ups loses massive money for both government and investors. We need to go back to root causes. We need to embrace the people who wants to make Singapore strong. Not just people who merely want to benefit themselves

And on another thread:

I’ve now read Tan Jee Say”s National Regeneration Plan and felt he did have something useful to offer. I encourage him to stay on the constructive dialogue instead of merely saying sad things
 Adrian Tan added to the last:
Saw that. Well done. He does himself no credit with spam like this. One could argue that this spam reflects his true self.

TJS asked Adrian Tan to post a response of his as a response to the pirce on him. Tan wasn’t sure which one he meant even though TJS was pretty specific, but TJS never responded to his query. He most probably tot that Tan was trolling Tan.

It’s below. I decided to use it as part of a piece rather than let it languish as a comment

But note that he never answered my beef with him** (which was why Tan queried Tan, as he explained to me): that he, TJS, so cock as to think that we’ll get the chance to vote in the next PE.

TJS says

Participating in GE n PE is the only way of communicating alternative views n policies in public platforms n through main stream media. Many PAP old timers including ex-ministers have cheered me on n encouraged me to continue with my criticisms of PAP policies n practices as few who are familiar with government policies, dare to speak up esp those who do want to risk their million dollar salaries n high positions. If I n others had not spoken up , would PAP change their policies on immigration, housing, health, pioneer benefits etc. So be thankful to us who took part in GE n PE n spoke up for you n your benefits, your children n their benefits.

As I keep saying, the PAP is lucky in its enemies. With Mad Dog, TJS, Roy Ngerng, M Ravi, s/o JBJ, New Citizen Han Hui Hui and Goh Meng Seng as enemies, who needs friends?

So Chris K, Terry and other brave warriors, you sure you want to keep on fighting alongside these nuts?


*Because for all his oversized ego and failures to make it big time (What happened when he headed John Govett: it tanked), and doing the PAP’s work for free*** (think PE 2011) he has some interesting ideas for the betterment of S’pore.

**

It is vitally important that we elect a strong President, not a token one, next year to ensure that our reserves are used to benefit ordinary people, rather than provide life support to “natural aristocrats” and their cronies.

TJS must be deluded to think we’ll get the chance to vote for the next president. LOL. But then TJS tot he had the votes to become MP and then president and then MP. The whipping his ass got (three times in row) must have affected his brains which doesn’t seem to reside in his skull.

I mean, the conventional wisdom among the thinking anti-PAP activists and cyberwarriors is that we’ll not get the chance to vote at the next PE.

Not I never argued that his standing for election was a waste of time.

***It’s alleged he never got his 30 pieces of silver for standing in PE 2011. Could that add to his bitterness?

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  1. Can’t speak for Terry and other “brave warriors” but calling out the PAP’s bullshit and giving alternative suggestions ain’t a binary choice of fighting alongside Mad Dog, TJS, Roy Ngerng, M Ravi, s/o JBJ, New Citizen Han Hui Hui and Goh Meng Seng.

    • It’s not binary, but I’ve been on the same side with prople I’d rather not be seen having dinner with. It can be dispiriting. ((((

  2. I’ll like to add a couple of things here…. It was mentioned that e must not attack the PM.
    Has the PM or the PMs before him taken note of this? Were they worse? Yes. They sued people, they send them to jail without trial.
    They set a bad example of what politics in Singapore is about.
    I wish they will stop all this and show some good examples instead.
    You may say this is politics and the realities of life. I can think of worse things, but let’s be better people so our younger generation can grow up to be more gracious. Thank you

    • “that e must not attack the PM”: never said that. Go read again. The complaints were that that he wasn’t giving reasons for his personals attacks. And that he then KPKBed when he got the same treatment. Read leh LOL.

  3. when compared to m’sian politics, the local type is nothing.

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