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LGBT rights campaigner happy that gays suffer UK court defeat

In Uncategorized on 31/10/2018 at 9:56 am

In the UK, Peter Tatchell is a LGBT rights campaigner that has campaigned for yrs and yrs for LBGT rights, but recently he upset many gays when he welcomed a court decision that many gays and their opponents took as a defeat for the cause.

In Gays versus Taliban Christians etc I wrote

[W]e have Pink Dot and friends who are calling for boycott of IKEA here (https://atans1.wordpress.com/2015/05/06/pink-dot-lgbt-militants-score-own-goal/) for being gay “unfriendly”. And the u/m shows gay overreach in the UK where gay marriages are legal:

“Gay prejudicing,” is the Sun’s headline to the story about a Christian-run bakery being found guilty of discrimination after refusing to decorate a cake with the slogan “support gay marriage”.

For the Express, it’s “hardly a victory for common sense or for live-and-let-live… Since when is it a crime for a private company to turn down work?”

The Mail says that Belfast Judge Isobel Brownlie might have been applying the letter of the law but argues it raises questions about the balance between gay and religious rights. “Indeed, it highlights the argument for a conscience clause, protecting believers from being forced to go against the teachings of their faith,” it says.

Given that the bakers had not refused to serve the customer because he was gay but because its owners disagreed with the slogan, the Daily Telegraph asks whether the bakery’s stance was “discrimination against gays or an assertion of the right to free speech?”

It adds: “Imagine if a Muslim printer was forced to produce a cartoon of the Prophet Mohammed.”

Well recently, the UK’s Supreme Court ruled in favour of the Christian-owned bakery in Northern Ireland that refused to make a cake with a slogan supporting gay marriage, which remains illegal in the province. Peter Tatchell said it was “a victory for common sense” upsetting many gays.

I like the judges reasoning. The judges found that the bakers

— had not refused to serve the customer who ordered the cake on the basis of his sexuality; and

— so were justified on free-speech grounds in not baking the message he wanted displayed on it.

The militant gays were saying that the refusal to make a cake with the ordered slogan was the same as putting out a landlord putting out a sign saying

No blacks or Irish need apply

This is illegal in the UK, though not here.

The judges put paid to that line of reasoning by saying that the bakers had not discriminated against customer who ordered the cake on the basis of his sexuality, and so were entitled to refuse to bake a cake with the slogan the hay wanted.

  1. This UK court judgement is a very good one

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