



We keep hearing from the constructive, nation-building media that the ultra rich Chinese are relocating here from HK.
Funny then that they are not spending their $ here.
I read recently that Covid-hit Hong Kong lost luxury shopping crown to New York. Fall in visitors coincides with 41% decline in average retail rents in Tsim Sha Tsui district
Manhattan’s Upper Fifth Avenue is now the world’s most expensive street for luxury shopping with Milan’s Via Monte Napoleone in third.
HK scientists from the Chinese University of HK have developed a gut microbiome to reduce the risk of Covid-19 infections. The biome, SIM01, improves gut microbiota balance and boosts immunity.
Maybe got lost in SPH’s/ST’s new digital platform.
Read or will this in our constructive, nation-building media? I doubt it. Especially since HK is number 3 despite all the dissing that the ang moh media has been heaping on it.
And we pay our millionaire ministers millions and get this “mediocre” result? It sucks that LA is bigger and SF is just behind us.
Worse we only third in Asia.
But be thankful for small mercies. A friend (and PAP critic) living in Tokyo must be mortified that Tokyo is only number 9, and worse just ahead of Shenzhen. LOL.
In an article that the PAP govt would consider constructive and nation-building, this fact stuck out like a sore thumb
Overall, the value of the city’s [HK’s] listed stocks runs to nearly $5trn, compared with $7trn in Shanghai and $700bn in Singapore.
https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2022/06/29/the-battle-between-asias-financial-centres-is-heating-up
I’m old enough to remember when the stock exchanges in S’pore and HK were roughly equal in size.
That’s not all. If you take out the Jardines Group out of S’pore’s numbers, I’m sure we are smaller than the stock markets of Thailand, M’sia and Indonesia.
This year, NASDAQ in bear market (more than -20%) and S&P in correction (more than -15%). HK and China have been in bear markets since last year.
STI up 3% this year. And if palm oil keeps on flying, and Covid is under control in the region, expect the tourists from Indonesia and M’sia to come in.
Despite its Covid-19 crisis and all the bad things int’l media say about HK
How many square meters of prime real estate does US$1,000,000 buy around the world? Didn’t expect Tokyo and Dubai to be so affordable. Surprised that Sydney is so “unaffordable” relative to Shanghai. Source tps://buff.ly/3NCO9Fe
Our central bank
urges homebuyers to exercise prudence, as housing loans drive increase in household debt
https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/mas-urges-homebuyers-exercise-prudence-housing-loans-drive-increase-household-debt
And well it should
And at the high end, things don’t look that good.
Having said that one of my neighbours is talking of selling and downgrading because he is cash poor. Terrace houses in the neighbourhood are priced at S$3-3.6m each, with corner houses going for S$5.2m. Another neighbour says, why sell unless cash is needed. He’s an ex-SIA pilot who turned 65 last July: great timing his drop-dead gorgeous wife (SIA auntie) says. He’s now a trainer for Boeing.
She went into Hang Seng and Chinese techies on her gut feel
The above chart reminded me that midweek her bestie called me to update me on the clueless Tai Tai I talked about last yr (Tai tai’s luck runs out, heading for Woodbridge? and Tai tai forgot this) trading performance. Tai tai doesn’t call me. Glad as her BS (one minute tells me she collected, 50k dividend from DBS, next minute it becomes 500k) and arrogance annoys me and I always tell her off.
Her unlucky streak cont’d this yr.
A few months ago, her “bestie” said she went into HK stocks, and China tech shares on her gut feel. The Hang Seng Index lost more than 11 % since her entry point.
And here’s what happened to Chinese tech stocks
But this wasn’t her biggest cock up. I’ll leave that for another day.
In August so far, HST is trying to stabilise around the 6.68 level. Missed a bullet on this.
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As someone who has problems diversifying cash generated from dividends and capital gains (Can’t put into my CPF account but topped up my 98 yr old mum’s MediSave to the full amount. It pays 6% interest per annum.) into non equity assets, I wish our govt would have something similar to what HK has for oldies with cash.
HK at regular intervals issues “silver bonds” for oldies
The HKMA announced the issue of the fifth batch of silver bond targeting Hong Kong residents aged 65 or above. It will be available for subscription from 1st December.
OCBC Securities
• The tenor will be 3 years and the minimum guaranteed interest rate will be 3.5%, the highest since record. The total issue amount will be HK$10 billion and could be increased to as much as HK$15 billion, depending on the response. This is much more than the previous issue amount of HK$3 billion.
HK like us has an old age problem. It’s even worse there.
OCBC says that HK’s population aged 65 is about 1.38m and accounted for 18.3% of total population as of mid 2020, up from 15.3% as of mid-2015 and higher than the 17% for OECD members in 2019. Population aged 65 and above (% of total population) here was reported at 12.39 % in 2019, according to the World Bank.
OCBC says that Given the worsening aging problem in HK, “it is good to provide some asset management tool for the elderly to grow their assets to ease future financial burden.”
Dare say this HK but dare not say this about S’pore. LOL.
Btw, the issuance of silver bonds are not for the purpose of financing any budget deficit but mainly for promoting the development of retail bond market. Like govt here, HK govt has lots of cash.
Give me decent interest income from govt bonds, not freedom to riot. Here Pay And Pay means neither alternative is available. SAD.
Pre-departure tests will cost HK$240 ($30) in Hong Kong and up to S$200 in Singapore.
FT report
Well HK$240 is only S$41.73. Yet S’pore is charging up to S$200.
An honest mistake? Or our preflight Covid-19 tests manufactured in the US of A and HK’s made in China? That explains why HK test is less than 25% of ours?
(Last sentence added on 12 November at 5.00am)
Is it just preventing India from using Covid-19 to make China weak again? Or is it escalating tensions?
Hong Kong announced a third suspension against Air India after Indian travellers accounted for most of Hong Kong’s 17 new infections on Saturday (‘Coronavirus: Hong Kong urged to curb inbound travel from India as nation linked to most of city’s 17 new Covid-19 cases‘, 17 Oct). All of Saturday’s confirmed infections in Hong Kong were imported, 11 of them arriving from India.
This is the third time Hong Kong has banned Air India. Hong Kong had barred Air India from running the Delhi-Hong Kong services from August 18 to 31, and September 20 to October 3.
Hong Kong imposes a 14-day ban on any airline that carries five or more COVID-19 positive passengers, or operates two consecutive flights with three or more infected passengers.
It currently requires travellers from India to present a negative PCR test result for COVID-19 before boarding a flight to Hong Kong. But cattle truck load of infected travellers from India, the Hong Kong officials are facing calls to further tighten rules on travellers coming from there.
Hong Kong health experts are raising questions over the reliability of testing in India. Professor David Hui Shu-cheong, a Hong Kong government adviser said that there could be inaccuracies with the tests conducted in India. “It remains unclear with the reliability and sources of the tests there,” he said.
All those fake degrees?
Btw, Covid-19: India trying to reinfect China in escalation of border dispute?
OR “Investors give ang moh tua kee activists and ang moh human rights activists the finger”.
Hong Kong has recorded inflows of almost HK$55bn (US$7.1bn), forcing the HK Monetary Authority to intervene almost every day since September 14 to keep the currency within the pegged trading band of 7.75 to 7.85 to the US$.
Or in particular Temasek? Or a combination of a couple of TLCs: SIA, CapitaLand, Keppel and SembCorp? OK no htls among this quartet.
Its first half-yearly loss in more than a decade is unsurprising given the business includes airlines, commercial real estate, hotels and marine services.
…
portfolio of some of the sectors worst affected by coronavirus
FT
So who is it?
太古集團 or Taikoo.
A red chip controlled by China?
Nope: a British-controlled Hong Kong conglomerate, Swire Pacific
BS that HK is an ang moh dominated biz centre (Think S’pore). It’s really a Chinese city.
In 2018 the number of mainland businesses with offices of any kind in the city eclipsed the number of American firms for the first time (see chart). Mainland companies accounted for 73% of the Hong Kong stockmarket at the end of last year, compared with 60% five years before. They also use HK to sell US$ and other foreign currency bonds
HK has reinvented itself yet again.
When it was founded by the British, it became the gateway to China. Then it stagnated as a backwater when from the late -19th century Shanghai became the gateway to China. Jardines, Swires and Hongkong & Shaghai Bank had bigger operations in HK than in HK. But it was the leading port in the Pearl Delta.
After WWII and the Communist takeover of China, it became a manufacturer of cheap plastic good and was the centre of smuggling into and out of China, helping China defeat US trade and financial embargoes. With the reopening up of China, it again became the gateway to China.
Now its becoming a major Chinese city.
PAP govt or HK’s govt?
Remember Chan Kee Chiu made fun of HK’s clueless CEO for wearing a mask in public?
Well, Hong Kong reported the first day of zero infections in almost two months on Monday.
But,
Singapore reported a daily high of 1,426 new COVID-19 cases on Monday (Apr 20), bringing the national total to 8,014.
The “vast majority” of the new cases are work permit holders living in foreign worker dormitories, the Ministry of Health (MOH) said in its media release of preliminary figures.
Sixteen new cases are Singaporeans or permanent residents.
Singapore is now the worst-hit country in Southeast Asia, surpassing figures in Indonesia and the Philippines.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-new-cases-1426-foreign-workers-dormitory-citizen-pr-moh-12658250
Btw, Vietnam reported no new Covid-19 cases on Monday for the fourth day running, raising hopes that the worst of the outbreak there may have passed.
But the PAP govt is really lucky. The people most vocal in KPKBing about its efforts are cybernuts Mad Dog, Lim Tean, Meng Seng. One P (olitician) Ravi is joining them.
He’s trying hard to be a MP candidate for Tan Cheng Bock’s party. Someone should advise him to sit down and shut up. He shouldn’t talk cock like Lim Tean and Mad Dog. Dr Tan is not pleased Moley (Secret Squirrel’s sidekick) tells me.
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I didn’t realise until I read the FT that Hong Kong retail investors, “own roughly a third of the shares”. Like them, I’m upset, that the British authorities forced it and other major UK banks to cancel dividends.
What annoys is that the shares have traded ex dividend and those of us who take our dividends in scrip form had already been informed of the numbers of shares we were getting.
But Honkies are doing more than KPKBing
The decision of HSBC to suspend its dividend payments has sparked a backlash among investors in Hong Kong, its biggest market. Along with other big British banks, hsbc suspended shareholder payouts after the Bank of England leant on them to do so, but a group of investors in Hong Kong has banded together to try to force an extraordinary general meeting on the matter.
Economist
They took on China and now HSBC. Hongkies got balls.
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Further to Covid-19: Double confirm, S’pore not in East Asia, an interesting way of looking at things by the Economist’s HK correspondent.
The failure to wear masks in countries where masks are de rigueur socially, indicates to those wearing masks that there are probably other hygiene failures by those who don’t wear masks. Doubtless Chan Kee Chui would call those who wear masks in these countries “Xia suay” and insist on his right not to wear a mask when he visits China.
Ordinary Hong Kongers are fed up with being told that the science behind mask-wearing is disputed. They look at neighbouring east Asian countries, where people wear masks routinely, and notice that they are coping with the disease relatively well. Many factors are at play. But the ubiquity of the mask is one reason. This not just because of its ability to block germs, or prevent people from touching their faces. It is also a means of building trust and fostering civic responsibility—a visible signal to fellow citizens that you are doing your bit to protect them and they should do theirs. If you won’t bother to wear a mask, who knows whether you bothered to wash your hands?
https:///china/2020/03/28/the-etiquette-of-face-masks-in-hong-kong
Last September, following a prediction that came true, I doubled down on the prediction stakes:
My next prediction is that before 1 October, the tycoons will make a huge gesture and, for them expensive, on cheap housing to placate Beijing
(The Chinese state media outlets were criticising Hong Kong’s tycoons for the lack of affordable housing in the territory.)
On 25 September, this story appeared
New World donates almost a fifth of its farmland reserves towards building public homes to ease Hong Kong’s housing woes
- New World Development will donate 3 million square feet of farmland to Hong Kong’s government and toward charity for building public homes
- The first part of the donation, comprising 28,000 square feet of land next to the Tin Shui Wai subway station, will be turned into 100 three-storey homes measuring 300 square feet each by 2022
Adrian Cheng had announced that the New World Development would donate 3m square feet of land (a lot of land: fifth of the co’s reserves) to the government and charitable groups for subsidised housing developments. “We are very concerned about [Hong Kong’s] housing problem,” Mr Cheng said. His late grandfather founded New World Development, a ports, property and retail conglomerate.
Rival groups including Mr Li’s CK Asset Holdings and Lee Shau-kee’s Henderson Land then signalled their willingness to make similar land grants or ramp up their charitable activities. Mr Li’s charitable foundation also announced HK$1bn ($129m) in grants for small business owners affected by the protests.
These gestures appear to have appeased China. The rioters also helped the tycoons, by rioting for freedom. Pressure from Beijing on the tycoons lessened after a new wave of violent protests began in early October which continued through mid-November. The rioters came out over the Christmas, New Year holidays.
S’poreans, in general, take the view, that Hongkies are wasting their time protesting against China’s attempts to make HK more like S’pore in terms of political governance: Two cities, two systems
They should juz push for a massive HDB programme (When home ownership is less than 50%?) and other economic goodles.
Well
The hope was that eventually a Mikhail Gorbachev-like figure would appear in China who would allow universal suffrage in Hong Kong, Mr Chan says. “We don’t want to fight on the street. Why do we come out? Because the institution is not workable.”
FT
Wish them well. And remember this story. Given time, things can change.
Many years ago in a far away country a wise old teacher was in trouble with his King. The King sentenced the teacher to death, but listened to the teacher’s appeal.
The teacher pleaded for the King to give him five years in which to teach the King’s horse to talk. The King liked to own unusual things and a talking horse would certainly be unusual and after considerable thought said “yes”.
A friend of the teacher said to the teacher “Why did you make such a rash promise? You know no one has ever taught a horse to talk.” The teacher said in reply: “Sometime before the end of five years:
1. The King might change his mind and pardon me.
2. The King might forget that he sentenced me to death.
3. The King might die.
4. I might die.
5. I might teach the horse to talk.
In any event, I gain five years.”
https://naomistanford.com/2009/02/09/teaching-the-horse-to-talk/
Note that in other versions of the story, the “wise old teacher” is a con-man or trickster.
There be riots?
The high cost of housing in HK
Li [a taxi driver in HK] was amazed at how “cheap” apartments in Singapore are. He lives with his parents in a one-bedroom apartment that is worth HK$6.5 million (US$830,000). He cannot afford to move out and, with his fourteen-hour days, has neither the time nor money to date.
https://sudhirtv.com/2019/11/15/a-longform-on-hong-kong-vs-singapore/
mostly due to the lack of an HDB type building programme because the property tycoons have in the past successfully lobbied against massive public housing programmes in HK.
One cheer for the PAP’s housing policy?
Public housing: a brickbat, two cheers & constructive suggestions
Hong Kong to resume subsidising housing
means that home ownership has fallen below 50% of the population.
In Singapore, home ownership is above 90%.
“This was the plan which we had from the very beginning, to give everybody a home at cost or below cost and as development takes place, everybody gets a lift, all boats rise as the tide rises,” LKY
He believed that owning a home gave S’poreans a sense of equity, that they own a part of the city, making them care more for the community. He also felt that home ownership would give Singaporean families an asset and a means of wealth accumulation.
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Wealth accumulation? What wealth accumulation?
Why 30-year old HDB flats difficult to sell/ Why PAP rule will end in 2029.
Older HDB flats: How much value is lost in under 2 yrs
Now I.m not that stupid to think that the riots in HK could have been prevented by an HDB type policy and other economic measures aimed at reducing inequality. HK people are faced with a threat to their ang moh type freedoms: Honkies behaving like spoiled brats adopted by ang mohs (Cont’d)
But more public housing could have eased tensions: Bread and circuses.
Still not too late, if HK and Chinese govts are smart. But they don’t seem to be that smart. But maybe they are worried that a massive HDB type programme will cause unhappiness with those with mortgages to service? A massive HDB-type programme will result in lower values for existing private residential homes.
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I’ve KPHBed (HK: Int’l media coverage shows PAP got point on media?) that the ang moh media (including my favourites, FT, Economist and BBC: yup I’m an anglophile) exaggerate the severity of the violence (especially police “brutality” in HK).
Only two people have died despite
Rules of engagement that in July were consistent with best international practice—rubber bullets fired only below waist height, tear-gas used to disperse not to kettle—have been thrown out of the window. Beatings at the time of arrest have become commonplace, sometimes escalating to frenzy. On November 11th an unarmed protester was shot in the stomach at point-blank range. And all this with impunity. Officially, only one officer out of over 30,000 has as yet been suspended for any action against a protester.
and
[P]rotesters have vandalised (or, in protest slang, “renovated”) state banks, Hong Kong’s biggest bookseller (which is owned by the Liaison Office) and restaurants with sympathies assumed to lie with the Communist Party. Rioters now set fires not only on the streets but inside buildings. On November 6th a pro-establishment politician with known links to the triads in Yuen Long was stabbed in broad daylight. People fear being attacked simply on the basis of being Mandarin-speaking mainland Chinese. Nihilism is trumping romanticism: “If we burn, you burn with us”, a rebel slogan from the climax of the Hunger Games saga, has gained currency. Earlier this month it was given awful form when a bystander confronting protesters was doused with something flammable and set on fire (he survived).
So I’m glad that the Economist owned up in an article (above quotes also from said article to show up its reporting):
The violence of the Hong Kong protests, and of the response to them, is hardly remarkable by international standards. Much worse has happened in Baghdad, Beirut, Santiago and Tehran over the past months.
https://www.economist.com/briefing/2019/11/21/hong-kong-stares-into-the-abyss-amid-growing-violence
I’m not saying that the violence from both sides in HK is reasonable. It is unreasonable but let’s keep things in perspective especially police violence.
Many years ago when I was a student in the UK, I watched a Panorama documentary showing the French riot police at work and in training. They were a bunch of thugs with the sheriff’s badge.
Another Panorama documentary I watched years later about the UK miners’ strike in the 80s, showed that even ordinary policemen can get carried away when confronted with violent, angry crowds. I remembered the scenes where the police beat their plastic shields with their truncheons like Roman legionaries, before charging. Tribalism at work.
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I’ve always told young people who want to invest in local shares to buy into one of the two STI ETFs if they believe that the PAP govt is doing a decent job and will continue doing a decent job, and if they believe that it will continue ruling S’pore. A coalition of the Spastics (Mad Dog, Lim Tean and Goh Meng Seng) will ruin S’pore.
But with the troubles in HK, I’ve had to modify that advice by telling them that because the STI Index has a heavy HK component, they have to think about HK’s problems and its long term future.
I tell them that around 13% of the STI Index (by mkt cap) is made up cos in the Jardines Group. Jardine and Matheson (and Sassoon) were the original narco drug barons. Jardines Group is still very HK-based: Dairy Farm, Jardine Matheson, and HK Land. All these cos are in STI, as is Jardine C&C*. See table for the HK exposures of the Jardines Group: SGX-listed stocks that have serious HK exposure. Note that Mandarin Htls is part of Jardines Group.
I’ll end with a link to the constructive, nation-building BT, defending the heavy presence of Jardines in STI Index: https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/are-there-risks-to-having-too-many-jardine-units-in-the-sti. Note a far cry from its snide remarks in 2010. See STI ETFs — Are there values there?.
*Jardine C&C is big in Indonesia: Impt of Indonesia to Jardine’s and other local listcos
Once-peaceful pro-democracy demonstrations are transforming into violent confrontations. Neither side is willing to back down.
In the darkness, there’s black comedy.
Professionals protest during their lunch-break, then return to work.
Every day this week bankers and professionals have taken to the streets during lunch-breaks, blocking traffic
Economist
But nearby
masked protesters nearby smash traffic lights and set fire to bins.
Economist
And so
“I’ve been tear gassed a few times, but never when I was outside my office – popping out to get my lunch,” says one trader at HSBC.
BBC
When things were a lot less violent, FT reported (a few months ago)
Many of the radicals are wealthy and highly educated. When they scatter to avoid police they often escape in luxury cars. Polling among protesters consistently shows that economic factors are less important to them than ideas.
And
The movement is also cool and deeply romantic for young people who believe they are fighting for the future of their city. Many young couples in full battle gear can be seen hand in hand on the barricades.
Once-peaceful pro-democracy demonstrations have morphed into violent confrontations with neither side seems willing to back down. Int’l media puts the blamel largely on the HK authorities, especially the police.
Did you know that the Hongkie police are really very well behaved, restraint?
The Economist, no friend of the Honkie authorities and policesaid:
Hong Kong is a relatively modest user [of tear gas]. In the first five months of protests, its police fired nearly 6,000 rounds of tear-gas. Data are sketchy, but that seems a fairly modest figure—far fewer, for example, than were used on just one day in Paris last December against gilets jaunes (yellow-jacket) protesters.
Funny the ways of ang moh media. Very hard on gilets jaunes protesters. But very supportive of the Hongkie hooligans: HK: What MSM and alt media don’t tell us.
So maybe PAP got point on int’l media having their own agendas with objectivity being set aside if it doesn’t fit the agenda or narrative being peddled? Ang moh coverage of HK riots shows that the PAP govt has a point on its need to as its running dog, a constructive, nation-building media to help it fix the Oppo: Fixing the Oppo: Constructive, nation-building media and academics at work
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Every govt needs its own media outlets to tell its narrative? Cannot rely on ang moh media tell both sides of the story?
In Honkies behaving like spoiled brats adopted by ang mohs, then abandoned, I quoted an FT reader who wrote:
As someone aptly described to me, to BJ, Hong Kong is like a kid who was adopted by western parents when she was young and now rejoining the birth family. But then she doesn’t want to rejoin, she thinks she’s too good for them. She wants to go back to the adopted family, who has left. BJ sees all these in her eyes, and will promote the other kids. HK has fallen out of favour.
My friend Chris Kuan has a better description
Geezer got it wrong, Its more like one of those sob Chinese dramas from the old days. Child brought up by angmoh after being given up by parents. After grown up, parent demand child to be returned and child is kicking and screaming, wanting to remain with the person who brought him up.
What Chris left out is that ang moh told kid they had to return to their real parents albeit with promises from the real parents that the kid could be like ang moh for another 50 years.
Whatever Hongkie kid prefers ang mohs. And in 2018 Hongkies love PAP govt, diss their govt.
HK attracts better quality FTs.
Remember our National Conversation? And remember how skeptical I was of NatCon?
Many (self included) think that NatCon is Wayang. But could it be even more cynical? Is NatCon’s aim to distract us from the govt’s mismanagement of the economy. This unworthy tot struck me when I read DBS’ analysis of the S’pore economy last week.
NatCon: More cynical than Wayang?
“Dialogue in the Dark (DiD) is a social enterprise that aims to educate the public on the experience of blindness, ” writes MSF S’pore (Kee Chui Chan’s ministry)
Tot it should be appropriated as a description of NatCon.
The door-to-door survey of 4,000 Singaporeans was conducted by the Institute of Policy Studies (IPS) between November last year and February. It was carried out to validate the issues brought up in the 660 OSC sessions held over the past year …
[OSC committee Chairman and Education Minister Heng Swee Keat] noted that overall, the participants at the OSC sessions wanted the assurance that housing, healthcare and public transport will remain affordable.
Govt needed NatCon + survey to find these things out?
Norwegian PM Jens Stoltenberg spent an afternoon working incognito as a taxi driver in Oslo, he has revealed.
Mr Stoltenberg said he had wanted to hear from real Norwegian voters and that taxis were one of the few places where people shared their true views.
Well a M’sian-born ethnic Indian living in HK (Seems he worked here too) wants to start a conversation that suspiciously sounds like NatCon the Hongkie way.
As for providing a platform for people to speak up, local businessman Chandran Nair, who runs independent think tank The Global Institute for Tomorrow, is touting his “Let’s Talk Hong Kong” project, which he hopes will provide a network of independent and neutral platforms “to bring the community together and find solutions”.
“Many are concerned about being involved in any way but I keep stressing that we are not taking sides and will be neutral,” he said, on the hunt for partners to raise funds and get started.
“Despite what people say, there is a positive path for Hong Kong after the protests. The first step on that path is dialogue: not just as a mechanism to narrow the political divide or share frustrations, but as a way to build real public understanding and trust across different social groups in the city.”
Let’s wish him luck.
Coming back to NatCon, the PAP govt will say its a great success. It won 70% of the popular vote in 2015. In 2011 it “won” only 60% of the popular vote.
In fact ang moh sui jee.
HSBC recently came up with a worse than expected set of results. Despite a US China trade war (HSBC is world’s largest trade financier and China’s the wotld’s workshop) and HK riots, its Asian businesses performed in line with analysts’ expectations.
Ang moh countries under-performed as usual but disappointed the already low expectations
HSBC’s cost-to-income ratio is 104% in Europe, compared with 43% in Asia, where it generates nearly 90% of its profits. The bank makes only a quarter of its lending in Britain, yet the country generates 35% of its non-performing loans … Its $98bn of risk-weighted assets allocated to America produce only $527m in annual profit.
Ang mohs are expensive, useless deadbeats. The only Asian country in HSBC’s empire like ang moh land is Ah Neh Land.
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Why HSBC is really Hongkong Bank
In Why HSBC is really Hongkong Bank
I wrote
I’m very surprised that BoC is a distant second in terms of deposits. I tot the gap was much narrower. And this was in 2018. I’m sure BoC lost a lot of deposits.
Well since then, there have been reports that BoC branches have been targeted by the rioters, as have the branches of other mainland controlled banks.
Sure HSBC is suffering because HK is its biggest and most profitable market
But the attacks and withdrawals from the Chinese banks must bring a smile to the quai lows at Hongkong Bank.
(I hope FT doesn’t sue me for this copy and paste.)
This is a thread in an FT article on HK. Doesn’t Passeby’s first two paragraphs remind you of the typical S’porean response to the unrest in HK?
Passerby
I wish the parents of the teenager rioters lose their job and have to tell their rioter children they can no longer afford school and data plan and food for them. And these spoiled brats have to actually go out and live life and earn money. Yeh, maybe then they would appreciate a little more having stability in the society and the economic benefits the motherland China provides.But then it would be too late, as this is not some kind of game. Macau is setting up their stock exchange. Shenzhen is taking over HK. Hong Kong will forever have lost its lustre.
As someone aptly described to me, to BJ, Hong Kong is like a kid who was adopted by western parents when she was young and now rejoining the birth family. But then she doesn’t want to rejoin, she thinks she’s too good for them. She wants to go back to the adopted family, who has left. BJ sees all these in her eyes, and will promote the other kids. HK has fallen out of favour.
The cost of these few months is immeasurable, and irrecoverable.
Hong Kong burns, and no one else burns with Hong Kong.
The responses were pretty good too
concerned n america
Maybe the HK kid sees the Muslim Uigher kid Getting their organs harvested and clearly doesn’t want to rejoin the evil family.Aloha
@PasserbyDeep in the psyche of every Wumao is this shame that they have to justify and defend the death of hundreds of unarmed college students in Tiananmen in 1989 with jobs and economic growth. That if the Chinese Communist Party has not shot those protestors, their lives would somehow be worse off. That is the argument they have to repeat to themselves and to others.
South Korea had also had its ‘Tiananmen’ and people also died. But South Korea have confronted the past and is able to talk about it. Consider that South Korea is a country smaller than some Chinese provinces and what it has achieved economically. It’s a lie that the Chinese communist party wants people to buy in: that only the Chinese communist party can provide stability and economic growth.
Also no more Hong Kong means no more Chinese communist party members able to hid their ill gotten money off shore from mainland China.
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Singapore and Hong Kong have long offered rival political models. Singapore, put crudely, is an illiberal democracy; Hong Kong a liberal autocracy. One has a freely elected government but strict laws limiting, for example, public protest and some political debate. The other has a chief executive “elected” by a few hundred officials, a partially elected and weak legislature, but robust traditions of freedom of speech and assembly. Singapore has been pointing, discreetly, to its relative stability. On October 4th the foreign ministry advised Singaporeans to “defer non-essential travel” to Hong Kong.
HK still top dog vis-a-vis S’pore: China says it needs HK as a financial centre
Got this right: HK: Who Beijing really blames for the protests and riots
Got this wrong: but HK’s CEO has announced that govt will seize back unbuilt land from tycoons to build public housing. This was a no-no since colonial days.
In Beijing, to celebrate the 70th anniversary of China’s liberation by the CCP, there is a big military parade presided over by Xi,
In HK:
[I]mages of Mr Xi will be glued on to walkways so that protesters can stamp on him as they pass by.
FT
Btw, FT’s great coverage of HK: HK: What MSM and alt media don’t tell us
Thicker than even blood: The PAP way is the CCP way.
OK, OK not China but the constructive, nation building People’s Daily: Xi’s answer to our ST.
In an editorial on September 16, the paper said that HK was irreplaceable for China because of its importance as an offshore renminbi trading hub, its rule of law, its role as a risk and wealth management centre and its place as one of the freest economies in the world.
Well you heard it from China’s ST, not from some CIA funded ang moh running dog ang moh media like the FT or Economist or NYT who have also said this. As by the way as does once cybernut hero Chris Kuan.
Why isn’t Terry Online’s Service taking stuff from him. Secret Squirrel tells me it’s because he tells it as it is. Terry only wants stuff that puts the PAP govt in a bad light, even if it means faking the facts: Why TOC’s Danisha Hakeem is a menace to the credibility of alt media. Btw, he’s a S’porean.
Sorry coming back to HK.
Financial aspects of protests
Attempt to bring down HK’s financial system fails: yet again
Why HSBC is really Hongkong Bank
Tourism is 40% down because mainlanders are not coming and Swiss cos are affected.
I got this right.
Last week, in HK: Who Beijing really blames for the protests and riots, I wrote
Morocco Mole (Secret Squirrel’s side-kick) says that his second cousin twice removed in the CCP Central Committee says that Xi is planning to make these tycoons make big public donations (billions of dollars) to the HK govt which will use the money to do things like build cheap (not “affordable”) public housing. Remember you read of this first here.
On Saturday, the People’s Daily (China’s ST) demanded that the HK tycoons show their sincerity instead of “hoarding land for profit and earning every last penny”. All in all, there were separate editorials in three major constructive, nation-building state-owned media outlets attacking the property tycoons. They all suggested that HK authorities seize undeveloped land and use it to build more housing. Fyi, they are so powerful that the HK govt was planning to reclaim land from the sea to build public housing on, because the tycoons did not want building on vacant land state land.
My next prediction is that before 1 October, the tycoons will make a huge gesture and, for them expensive, on cheap housing to placate Beijing and, hopefully, the protesters. Remember that 1st October is an important date in Xi’s calender.
On that day, Beijing will be hoping to project an image of national strength and unity with a military parade through the city to mark 70 years since the founding of the People’s Republic of China.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/14/asia/china-hong-kong-october-1-intl-hnk/index.html
And the HK protesters are planning a big do to spoil Xi’s big day in Beijing. They aim to grab the attention of the ang moh media who live by “If it bleeds, it leads”, preferring to showing scenes of violence rather than boring march-pasts of of tanks and missiles.
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Financial aspects of protests
Attempt to bring down HK’s financial system fails: yet again
Why HSBC is really Hongkong Bank
Tourism is 40% down because mainlanders are not coming and Swiss cos are affected.
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Meanwhile, both sides are aware of the 800-pound gorilla in the room: US Cavalry riding to rescue HK from chief Xi?
Finally, Who is the superhero of protestors and short-sellers?
Chinese officials and their running dogs have publicly blamed the West (CIA. MI6, etc etc) for instigating the ang moh tua kee Hongkies.
The int’l press meanwhile have been highlighting that the local tycoons had been assuring Beijing that all was well: focusing on the big picture economic numbers and gliding over or misrepresenting awkward data like the declining affordability of housing*. They also reported that Beijing officials were privately grumbling about being misled by local tycoons.
So it was interesting that when the Economist and the NYT recently interviewed Ren Zhengfei, Huawei’s founder: he said he thinks that Honkie tycoons were “too greedy”
Asked about the unrest in Hong Kong, the Huawei boss voices aloud a criticism that other members of the mainland elite normally voice in private: that the tycoons who dominate the former British colony have been too greedy over the years. “The issue in Hong Kong has been caused by extreme capitalism. The four major families have made enormous amounts of money,” he says, detailing how the same few property magnates control the economy down to its humblest newspaper kiosks and coffee shops. “A lesson we are learning from the current situation in Hong Kong is that the divide between the rich and poor shouldn’t be too large,” he says.
https://www.economist.com/china/2019/09/12/huaweis-founder-defends-deng-xiaopings-chinese-model
Morocco Mole (Secret Squirrel’s side-kick) says that his second cousin twice removed in the CCP Central Committee says that Xi is planning to make these tycoons make big public donations (billions of dollars) to the HK govt which will use the money to do things like build cheap (not “affordable”) public housing. Remember you read of this first here.
*Bit like grassroot leaders telling PM and his millionaire ministers that the grumblings of people like me between 2007 and the calling of GE 2011 was “juz noise” and didn’t reflect reality: voters were happy with the PAP. As PM admitted, he and his ministers realised the truth during the campaigning and he apologised: BG Yeo wants to lead Opposition within the PAP?.
The Chinese are buying HK shares. Better still state-owned cos are suspected to be doing much of the buying at the behest of Xi.
Since the start of the year, net purchases of Hong Kong stocks by mainland Chinese investors had reached almost HK$160bn ($20bn) by the close of the market last Friday. This is almost double net inflows of HK$82.7bn for all of 2018. The buying was made through stock connect programmes of the Shanghai and Shenzhen stock exchanges.
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Or to be a lot more accurate, will the US Congress pass “Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act”?
The proposed bill would allow the US government to place sanctions on Chinese officials who “suppress basic freedoms” in Hong Kong and would require it to regularly certify the city’s “high degree of autonomy” in order for it to continue to enjoy preferential trade and investment policies not available to mainland China.
Last weekend, there was the usual massive peaceful protest followed by small scale but very violent riots. HK protesters were marching, asking the US congress to pass the above act. Many of the marchers, from elderly retirees, young families and students, carried US flags, or placards bearing the face of Donald Trump to call on the him to support them.
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How Hongkies justify flying US flag
The US flag is about freedom and bravery,” said one, a 30-year-old who gave his name as Peter. “It’s not about supporting the US government, it’s about the value behind the flag no matter who the US president is at the time. The flag and the freedom doesn’t change.
Quote from FT
Tun manufacturing another row to stir his anti-PAP S’porean fans?
Btw, carrying placards with The Donald’s face on them is a smart way of currying his favour. He can tell Xi, “I’m more popular then you in Hong Kong.”
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The US Congress will return this week after its summer recess. The Hong Kong bill has widespread bipartisan support.
China’s leaders must either respect Hong Kong’s autonomy and rule of law or know that their escalating aggression will inexorably lead them to face swift, severe and lasting consequences from the United States and the world. Today, that choice is theirs.”
Marco Rubio, a former US presidential candidate and co-sponsor of the bill.
Another example of the Americans’ attitude: Americans and Chinese lay down the law to HK
The protests have led to share price falls for Swiss watchmakers Richemont and Swatch Group. They had fallen after previous unrest in 2014 but then recovered.
It’s all about tourists (especially from the mainland) buying their stuff: Why ang moh luxury brands lick Chinese p***ies.
All indications are that the first day of the second general strike since the 1967 Cultural Revolution riots was a damp squib despite protestors disrupting train services causing major rush hour traffic delays and many students boycotting classes (Great excuse to take the day off),.
Time for the Head Prefect to call a press conference? She always gets HK people more upset and
instead of steadying markets, Ms Lam’s press conferences have tended to correlate with sharpening falls on the Hang Seng, which finished the month more than 7 per cent lower.
FT
Yesterday, HSBC took out advertisements, in five Cantonese-language newspapers. The bank said it was deeply concerned about the recent events and “condemned violence of any kind”, saying the rule of law is vital to maintaining Hong Kong’s status as a financial centre. “That is why we fully support the ambition to resolve the present situation peacefully.”
Why is it so concerned?
These three charts show why HSBC is really Hongkong Bank (It once used this name), and the last two charts also show that it’s the people’s bank in HK. All of which explains the ads and what an HSBC spokesman said recently: “We respect that our employees have their own personal views on political and social matters. Our priorities are the safety of our employees and supporting our customers.”
A 34-year-old HSBC bank employee said the bank had not officially sanctioned the strike on Monday but some managers had told staff verbally they would not be penalised for not coming to work.
FT
Interesting, relevant, little known facts about HK’s general strike
Remember that HSBC includes the Hang Seng Bank which has a lot of branches serving the people: the takeover of Hang Seng Bank was the start of HSBC becoming a global bank: HSBC, Superman and another Cina superhero. I’m very surprised that BoC is a distant second in terms of deposits. I tot the gap was much narrower. And this was in 2018. I’m sure BoC lost a lot of deposits.
Wh
Where’s ours? U waiting for election is it?
Remember the govt recently cut its growth forecast
Taking into account the global and domestic economic environment, as well as the performance of the Singapore economy in the first half of the year, the GDP growth forecast for 2019 is downgraded to “0.0 to 1.0 per cent”, from “1.5 to 2.5 per cent”, with growth expected to come in at around the mid-point of the forecast range.
MTI
HK has cut its 2019 growth forecast to between 0-1%, from 2-3%.
The HK govt announced a US$2.4bn economic support package on Thursday in a bid to ease headwinds.
Financial Secretary Paul Chan said it would include subsidies for businesses and the underprivileged as well as higher salary tax rebates. He stressed that the package was not in response to escalating political protests in the territory.
Strike brings Hong Kong to a standstill as political crisis deepens
Transport network crippled and flights cancelled as police clash with protestersFT Headline
It went on
Advertising and banking employees joined construction and retail workers to take part in Hong Kong’s first general strike in half a century, showing how anti-government sentiment is now building among professionals.
There were the usual clashes and the use of tear gas by the police.
Here’s some facts that are not well known but relevant in analysing the situation in HK
There hasn’t been a general strike [in Hong Kong] since the 1960s when the Beijing-controlled unions called the strikes,” Antony Dapiran. He has written a book on the history of dissent in HK. So if the West is really behind the protests as Beijing alleges, cannot isit? Juz retaliating ler.
A HK conglomerate (Secret Squirrel tells me HK Special Branch tells him it’s the Jardine Group) said via an unofficial but authoritative spokesperson that employees who choose not to come to work on Monday could count it as a “work from home”. Seems Swire Group also had a similar policy. Both are British Hongs.
The local HK conglomerates (Cheung Kong, Hutch etc) juz said nothing as they hope not to upset Beijing, the HK govt, or their HK employees.
An HSBC spokesman said: “We respect that our employees have their own personal views on political and social matters. Our priorities are the safety of our employees and supporting our customers.”
A 34-year-old HSBC bank employee said the bank had not officially sanctioned the strike on Monday but some managers had told staff verbally they would not be penalised for not coming to work.
FT
Remember that HSBC includes the Hang Seng Bank which has a lot of branches serving the people: the takeover of Hang Seng Bank was the start of HSBC becoming a global bank: HSBC, Superman and another Cina superhero.
StanChart, Citi etc kept quiet hoping not to upset Beijing, the HK govt or their employees.
Btw, HSBC’s retail business holds billions of dollars in deposits in HK, and has a leading position in mortgages: both may suffer if instability worsens.
The Americans were very aggressive, while the Chinese were very wishy washy, mouthing platitudes.
The American Chamber of Commerce in Hong Kong (AmCham members represent sectors ranging from financial services to logistics and tech) has called on the government to take immediate action to restore business confidence in HK, including a complete withdrawal of the controversial bill that would have enabled extraditions to mainland China.
It suggested the government restore confidence by “formally and completely” withdrawing the extradition bill “to remove any room for continued public doubt” among other measures, it said in a statement.
What I found funny was that this statement was sent following a survey of its members. Only 12% responded to the survey according to the FT yet
“A clear majority of our membership surveyed over the past week said the government needs to address the underlying causes of the protests and not simply to paper over the cracks of social instability with a short-term law-and-order fix,” said AmCham President Tara Joseph.
(BBC report)
Meanwhile, the Chinese comments were pretty mild.
“We hope that… people will stand firm in defence of the rule of law,” a spokesman for the government’s Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office said.
Adding “We call on the general public of Hong Kong to be aware of the grave nature of the current situation.”
He condemned “the evil and criminal acts committed by the radical elements” in Hong Kong.
“We noticed he Hong Kong government has earnestly reflected on its inadequacies over its work on the extradition bill, and Carrie Lam said on July 1 she would change her governing style to be more open and tolerant in listening to Hong Kong people’s feedback.”
HK has seen eight consecutive weekends of protests.
As the letter to the Editor of the Economist (see below) points out
— “The promise of universal suffrage as the ultimate aim appears in the Basic Law”, HK’s “constitution” that was approved by Beijing. One in the eye for China for being that stupid. Another in the eye for now changing it’s mind. Why pretend in the first place?
— The British only took “action to return power to the people until they learned that there would be no hope of extending British rule beyond 1997”: “Perfidious Albion” as the French would say. Saboing China isit? Planting a bomb and hoping it would explode after they left?
To be fair to the British Foreign Office, the mandarins there were appalled by the decision of Chris Patten (last governor of HK but the first British politician to hold that post) endorsed by the British cabinet to give the HK people democratic rights which the British had long withheld from them.
The mandarins like the Chinese leaders thought that HK would be returned to China on an “as is” basis. The clock on political and social changes had stopped at the time the Sino-British joint declaration on the future of Hong Kong was agreed upon, unless both sides agreed to changes. But Patten saw a loophole in the declaration, and sensed that China did not want to make HK people more fearful of China by publicly kicking up a huge fuss about giving the HK people democratic rights previously denied to them.
The letter is from a pro-China member of LegCo. She was the Secretary for Security and tried to pass some really draconian laws but the Hongkies demonstrated and the laws never passed.
I must take issue with “China’s chance” (June 22nd), which ascribed the recent turmoil in Hong Kong to China’s alleged suppression of Hong Kong’s freedoms and reluctance to grant the territory universal suffrage in electing its chief. China has gone much further than Britain in democratising Hong Kong. The promise of universal suffrage as the ultimate aim appears in the Basic Law, Hong Kong’s mini-constitution, not in the Sino-British joint declaration on the future of Hong Kong. Nor did the British overlords take action to return power to the people until they learned that there would be no hope of extending British rule beyond 1997.
It is naive to suggest that universal suffrage will solve all Hong Kong’s problems. Its people, especially the young, are deeply angered by the acute housing and land shortage, the widening wealth gap, worsening living conditions and the narrowing opportunities for upward mobility because of competition from a rising China. Hong Kong, however, is not unique in experiencing deep divisions because of growing disparities.
Universal suffrage to elect the city’s leader, with groups fighting on opposing ideological or socioeconomic platforms, would serve only to amplify the existing schisms. Britain’s recent political polarisation among Remainers and Leavers is a cautionary tale for those who have romantic illusions about democracy. Our city’s priority must lie in tackling deep-rooted social and economic problems with a view to improving the livelihood of our people.
regina ip
Member of Hong Kong’s
Legislative Council
Hong Kong
Maybe PAP govt should have offered her a job in the civil service after she resigned as Secretary for Security. She’s their kind of FT: what with her dismissal of universal suffrage, and emphasis on security and keeping the masses contented. But she really has talent, and has a mind of her own, like many Hongkies.
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Both by our constructive, nation-building media and alt media. Both focus on faking the news to further their pro-PAP and anti-PAP agendas respectively.
I got these four great insights on the situation HK from the Financial Times.
Inside, it was chaos. An alarm was ringing, papers were scattered over the floor, the walls were covered in anti-government graffiti. On closer inspection, though, it was a finely calibrated act of provocation; protesters had vandalised the emblems of power but had been careful to leave libraries and cultural artefacts untouched. They’d even left money in the fridge to pay for drinks they’d consumed.
Louise Lim on what she saw inside the the thrashed LegCo
PAP BS that the violence was mindless. No wonder there was wide-spread approval of what the thrashers did.
The police’s reasoning for allowing the storming
Police defended their withdrawal from the Legislative Council complex, saying a decision was made on safety grounds to avoid possible “physical encounters” with protesters in a confined space. The force said protesters had used “poisonous and inflammable chemicals” to attack police officers during the day and if they had attempted to ignite these chemicals inside the building, the consequences would have been “unimaginable”.
One could be sceptical of the reasoning, but I never saw this reported here. Why?
This from an FT reader on the uselessness of the Chinese propaganda machine in HK
“It’s simply amazing that foreign powers can exert such an influence on this generation of Hong Kong youngsters who are often criticised for their poor command of English. The whole CCP propaganda machine in Hong Kong that has received limitless funding for the last 22 years, should be summarily dismissed for gross incompetence!!”
Gives the lie that our constructive, nation-building media imply: that the HK people are ang moh tua kees.
And last but not least, this illustration sums up the situation:
Further to HK: Frustration, Carrie’s gambit or PRC black ops?, where I voiced tots that the thrashing of LegCo could have been a PRC black ops operation (“Peanuts” mob and police “cooperation”), it’s now clear that it was more the result of the frustration of some useful idiots and a head prefect’s gambit that the useful idiots accepted. We’ll have to watch and wait to see who wins.
Hong Kong protests: Parliament ‘never represented its people’
On the night of 1 July, hundreds of protesters forcibly broke into Hong Kong’s parliamentary Legislative Council building.
Pro-democracy activist Joshua Wong, who did not take part, explains why protesters felt that action was necessary.
With useful idiots as Joshua Wong (He reminds me of our very own Mad Dog, now thankfully under sedation by RI doctors from the SDP), Xi doesn’t need to send in the PRC armed police.
Here is what a protester who was part of group that thrashed LegCo said
“Some people might say this is wrong but to us it is a necessary evil,” said one man wearing a gas mask, who identified himself only as Henry, as protesters threw eggs inside the Legislative Council, Hong Kong’s de facto parliament. “One million of us marched peacefully, two million of us marched peacefully and yet the government didn’t listen to us.”
FT report
Police inaction has led to suspicions that the break-in was encouraged* (Wilder speculation has the break-in attributed to PRC operatives and the usual “useful idiots”**)
At around midday, dozens of demonstrators broke off from the main protest and made their way to LegCo.
They effectively besieged the building, as a large crowd of several hundred watched from a distance, before eventually smashing their way through the glass facade.
Inside, they defaced the emblem of Hong Kong in the central chamber, raised the old British colonial flag, spray-painted messages across the walls and shattered furniture.
At about midnight outside the building, protesters clad in plastic helmets and brandishing umbrellas retreated from a baton charge by riot police, who quickly overcame their makeshift barriers.
Within an hour, the streets around the building were clear of everyone except the media and police.
BBC
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*Why did Lam remove the guards, inviting in the provocateurs?
**Were these protesters provocative agents of Communist China?
His government is trying to create a “Greater Bay Area” an area that includes Hong Kong, Macau and mainland cities in the fast-growing Pearl River Delta, a region with a population of 70m and which has a GDP around that of Australia.
Hong Kong would be the main financial centre for the area and China would “steadily expand the channels for mainland and Hong Kong residents to invest in financial products in each other’s market”.
Well it could sacrifice some economic and financial efficiency by not making HK the main financial centre. It could promote financial activities in other cities.
Let the Hongkies see if they can eat and drink ang moh ideals: Why Hongkies sang ‘Sing Hallelujah to the Lord’
The announcement by Hong Kong’s chief executive Carrie Lam that she was suspending the proposal surprised many China-watchers, who had assumed that President Xi Jinping in Beijing would be reluctant to back down and lose face. The fact that Mr Xi decided to hit the pause button suggests that the Chinese president and the Hong Kong government have collectively realised that the greatest risk facing them now is not perceived weakness, but chaos and violence on the streets of Hong Kong that could have significant domestic and international repercussions.
Emphasis mine
Well George Orwell did write
Since pacifists have more freedom of action in countries where traces of democracy survive, pacifism can act more effectively against democracy than for it. Objectively the pacifist is pro-Nazi.
“No, Not One”, Adelphi (October 1941)
A few yrs later, he elaborated further about the uselessness of pacifism or civil disobedience where democracy is absent (emphasis mine)
[Gandhi] believed in “arousing the world”, which is only possible if the world gets a chance to hear what you are doing. It is difficult to see how Gandhi’s methods could be applied in a country where opponents of the regime disappear in the middle of the night and are never heard of again. Without a free press and the right of assembly, it is impossible not merely to appeal to outside opinion, but to bring a mass movement into being, or even to make your intentions known to your adversary. Is there a Gandhi in Russia at this moment? And if there is, what is he accomplishing? The Russian masses could only practise civil disobedience if the same idea happened to occur to all of them simultaneously, and even then, to judge by the history of the Ukraine famine, it would make no difference. But let it be granted that non-violent resistance can be effective against one’s own government, or against an occupying power: even so, how does one put it into practise internationally? Gandhi’s various conflicting statements on the late war seem to show that he felt the difficulty of this. Applied to foreign politics, pacifism either stops being pacifist or becomes appeasement. Moreover the assumption, which served Gandhi so well in dealing with individuals, that all human beings are more or less approachable and will respond to a generous gesture, needs to be seriously questioned. It is not necessarily true, for example, when you are dealing with lunatics. Then the question becomes: Who is sane? Was Hitler sane? And is it not possible for one whole culture to be insane by the standards of another? And, so far as one can gauge the feelings of whole nations, is there any apparent connection between a generous deed and a friendly response? Is gratitude a factor in international politics?
http://www.orwell.ru/library/reviews/gandhi/english/e_gandhi
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I refer to HK: See the people walk, Hear the people sing.
Hallelujah to the Lord” became the unofficial anthem of crowds protesting against a controversial proposed law that would allow people accused of crimes in China to be extradited to the mainland not because the protesting Hongkies are Christians, or are ang moh tua kees or because CIA and MI6 operatives taught the organisers of the protesters the song in boot camp.
And definitely not because the protesters want to annoy Grandpa Xi and the other Chinese leaders who are all atheists.
Maybe it could to shame and irritate his head prefect in HK? After all Carrie Lam was once head prefect in a convent school and this song could be to remind her that as a devoted Roman Catholic she should not be the HK running dog of the atheistic Chinese Communist Party?
Here’s why according to BBC
For Christians in Hong Kong, the hymn is a sign of faith but also of their concerns that it’s not only political but also religious issues that are at stake, should the bill ever pass.
And
The hymn was picked up by other protesters – soon even non-Christians were singing it.
Because
“People picked up this song as it is short and easy to remember,” Edwin Chow, 19, acting president of the Hong Kong Federation of Catholic Students, told the BBC. “There’s only one line: ‘Sing Hallelujah to the Lord’.”
Also
The protesters said they sang it hoping it would have a calming effect on police, and would help diffuse tensions.
This was especially needed after police had earlier fired tear gas and shooting rubber bullets towards protesters.
Finally
The song also acted as a political shield, of sorts.
“According to the law, any religious assemblies in public areas are not considered as illegal, so if people sing hymns together, it could actually work as a protection and guarantee that [they] stay safe,” said Mr Chow.
“Therefore people started to sing this song to protect themselves.”
Btw, in case Terry Xu or Mad Dog is thinking of starting up a church, this loophole doesn’t exist in S’pore. Related post: Seelan Palay: Sylvia Lim was right
IT WAS PROBABLY the largest political protest ever staged in Hong Kong. It may have been the biggest in China’s history. Organisers reckon that about 1.9m people joined the demonstration on June 16th. Even during the unrest in Tiananmen Square three decades ago, no single protest approached that scale.
Economist
They sang in English, “Do you hear the people sing?” and “Sing Hallelujah To The Lord”.
Organisers say two million people have turned out for a demonstration in Hong Kong, the latest large protest against a controversial extradition bill.
But what did the protests look like on the ground?
We collated images taken within a short time of each other that show the extent of the crowds in Hong Kong on Sunday.
(Do look at the photos to see the scale of the protests.)
Which version would our Protection against Online Falsehoods and Manipulation say is fake? Grandpa Xi heard the Hongkies sing or Not fear of the people singing but fear of US growling made Xi chicken-out?
But maybe both reflect different facets of a very complicated situation.
What do u think?
How many of the protesters are mainland tourists or long term residents of HK from China.
The crowds are massive, no doubt about it. And Hongkies are really upset, no doubt about it: Not fear of the people singing but fear of US growling made Xi chicken-out.
But I’m curious about whether there are substantial numbers of mainlanders in the crowds, who are there really to protest against Xi.
The tourist numbers from China are staggering, fyi,
From January to November last year, about 58.6 million tourists visited Hong Kong, up 10.7 per cent from the previous year. Among them, 45.9 million were mainland tourists, an increase of 14.2 per cent from the same period in 2017.
In November, the number of mainland day trippers jumped 40.3 per cent year on year to a record 2.9 million, and accounted for 86.5 per cent of the city’s total of same-day arrivals.
Alan Au, a member of a Hung Hom community group, said it was common to see 300 mainland tourists blocking the streets as they waited for coaches in some parts of the district.
SCMP in January 2019
Further to this, Grandpa Xi heard the Hongkies sing, the truth seems to be a lot more complicated.
No, people power didn’t make Xi’s head prefect in HK suspend, as she claimed. rather than withdrawn the extradition bill, arguing the amendment was well intended but had been poorly communicated to the stupid ang moh tua kee Hongkies.
It all has to with America being the tua kee capable of destroying HK’s economy and damaging China. (Today, HK contributes a mere 3% of China’s GNP, down from 20% in 1997 but when winter’s arrived in the form of an economic slow down and a trade skirmish with the US, every little bit helps.)
[T]he US, began eyeing the territory as another possible stick with which to beat Beijing in the trade war. Congress on Thursday introduced a bipartisan Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act that could remove the city’s unique trading privileges with the US if the government did not uphold its freedoms.
FT
As the BBC reported
US lawmakers have introduced a bill to amend the Hong Kong Policy Act of 1992. The amendment requires the US Secretary of State to “issue an annual certification of Hong Kong’s autonomy to justify special treatment” by the US.
“The bigger issue is probably that the global perception of Hong Kong as a separate part of China is under threat. And that includes official recognition of Hong Kong as a separate customs, immigration, tax and legal jurisdiction,” said David Webb, editor of Webb-site.com and long-time resident of Hong Kong.
“If Hong Kong loses its separate status then, for example, all of the duties that America has applied to Chinese exports would apply to Hong Kong exports. And any prohibitions on transfers of high grade technology to China would apply to Hong Kong as well.”
The U-turn is a humiliation for Xi and Beijing. The people of HK will suffer.
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And backed off.
His head prefect in HK emphasised she had suspended rather than withdrawn the bill, arguing the amendment was well intended but had been poorly communicated to the stupid ang moh tua kee Hongkies. Ms Carrie Lam, Hong Kong’s chief executive, was the head prefect in her HK convent school, really.
This song is not allowed to be streamed in China, but the Hongkies sang it as they protested and won a victory that they did not expect to win.
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the songs of angry men?
It is the music of the people
Who will not be slaves again!
When the beating of your heart
Echoes the beating of the drums
There is a life about to start
When tomorrow comes
The bad news is that the students and others who supposedly sang this song in 1848 were killed in the French predecessor of Tiananmen.
But it’s a famous victory still for the Hongkies. So let’s give them three cheers. And hope for the best.
Anheuser-Busch InBev filed on Friday to list a minority stake (probably 15%) in Budweiser Brewing Company APAC, in what will be one of the biggest floats in Hong Kong’s history, if an IPO happens
Budweiser Brewing Company APAC, part of the AB InBev group and the largest beer company in Asia Pacific by sales value.
One is enjoying diary products like fresh milk, butter and cheese because of lactose intolerance:
Approximately 65 percent of the human population has a reduced ability to digest lactose after infancy. Lactose intolerance in adulthood is most prevalent in people of East Asian descent, affecting more than 90 percent of adults in some of these communities.
Lactose intolerance – Genetics Home Reference – NIH
The other is not being able to enjoy booze by having a combination of genes that puts us off drinking alcohol. It causes an unpleasant reaction and makes them feel unwell.
Further to Fake news on alcohol and stroke, if you did not read the BBC article I referenced there, you’d have missed something the bit about alcohol intolerance:
East Asian countries are useful places to study the effects of alcohol.
Many people with Chinese ancestry have a combination of genes that puts them off drinking alcohol. It causes an unpleasant reaction and makes them feel unwell.
As a result, there is a wide variation of alcohol intake in China – one in three men doesn’t drink and very few women do.
But by comparing the health outcomes of drinkers and non-drinkers according to their genetic profile, scientists say they have been able to assess – with much more certainty than before – the direct effects of alcohol on stroke risk, distinct from any other factors.
Western populations don’t possess these genes, so it would be impossible to carry out a similar study here.
And most studies are observational, which makes it’s difficult to judge which factor is causing what effect.
Dr Iona Millwood, study author and senior epidemiologist at the University of Oxford, said: “Our genetic analyses have helped us understand the cause and effect relationships.”
No wonder, we Chinese compensate for these defects by eating sea slugs, chicken claws, sharks’ fin and other exotics.
Further to HSBC: Looking vulnerable, the view from an institutional broker, here’s another view from the Investors Chronicle, a respected retail investor magazine.
It says “Buy: HSBC”
HSBC’s progress is encouraging. That bodes well for the maintenance of its dividend, which was last cut in 2009.
showing the retail emphasis on sustainable dividend. (Think: Hyflux is warning of investing in high dividend yield stocks.)
It says HSBC’s Asia pivot makes it a natural victim of US-China trade rows. Chairman Mark Tucker blamed market weakness during the fourth quarter for lower-than-expected revenue for 2018: must have financed large share purchases on margin.
Combined with a 6 per cent rise in adjusted operating expenses as the lender seeks to expand across the northern China and Pearl Delta areas, this resulted in negative adjusted “jaws” – the difference between the rates of change in revenue and costs — of 1.2 per cent.
In its global banking and markets business, economic uncertainty and reduced primary issuance led to lower adjusted rates and credit revenue. But this was partially offset by stronger demand for securities services and global cash management liquidity.
Retail banking and wealth management were much stronger, posting an 8 per cent rise in net operating income. That business benefited from a 9 per cent rise in lending and improved deposit margins due to rising interest rates.
But mortgage lending grew in the UK and Hong Kong, although margins shrank.
Higher lending and adverse foreign exchange movements across business lines also resulted in an increase in adjusted risk-weighted assets, which reduced the common equity tier one ratio to 14 per cent from 14.5 per cent in the prior year. However, the return on tangible equity improved by 1.8 percentage points to 8.6 per cent, with management reiterating its target to grow that figure to over 11 per cent by 2020.
Expected credit losses were slightly higher than loan impairment charges in 2017: blame Brexit and trade rows. Credit quality in the UK will get worse.
Analysts at Shore Capital expect adjusted net tangible assets of 732 cents (US) a share at the December 2019 year-end, up from 701 cents at the same time in the previous year.
Because investors are likely to be disappointed: slower revenue growth, no share-buy back and dividend yield could go up (share price falls).
JPMorgan Cazenove, a leading UK broker, downgraded HSBC to “underweight” from “neutral” with a 620p target on the back of the bank’s full-year results on Tuesday. Among the broker’s concerns was a rise in funding costs as Hibor — a measure of lending costs between banks in Hong Kong — underperforms Libor, the equivalent UK rate.
Although we rate HSBC’s management highly and view the group on the right strategic path long term, we believe that revenue growth pressures (partly as a result of the changed outlook for US rate hikes, a widening Libor-Hibor gap and macro uncertainty) alongside cost investment needs could weigh on the [return on tangible equity] outlook for longer than we previously thought.”
With HSBC unlikely to deliver an 11% on tangible equity by 2020, its premium valuation of 1.2 times book value looked exposed, JPMorgan said. It added that while HSBC no longer had a capital surplus, but investors continued to expect a share buyback this year.
The dividend of 51 cents (US) should remain stable over the medium term but the yield of 6% (in line with other UK banks) might move higher (i.e. because share price falls) because of the the uncertainties faced,
There’s an FT report that Temasek is putting pressure on StanChart to shape up. It’s tired of being reminded that under the current CEO, the share price has fallen 40%. Worse, share price is roughly at half of Temasek’s entry point 13 years ago.
Temasek forgot when it bot into StanChart that StanChart did not and still does not have have a major, thriving, prosperous market that it dominates.
Although it’s smaller than the supertanker of HSBC, it doesn’t have the engine of Hong Kong that HSBC does, so it’s taking every bit as long, if not longer, to reform. But we’re still very supportive.
(Hugh Young, head of Asia Pacific at Aberdeen Standard Investments, which holds a stake of about 5 per cent in the bank talking to the FT)
It also does not a client like the Lis.
The story of how two Chinese gentlemen made Hongkong Bank great is told in HSBC, Superman and another Cina superhero.
Remember Khaw saying this?
It was a very different era. Finance was tight, so we really had to scrutinise every dollar of spending.
The government of the day thought very hard if we could really afford an MRT line. It took months to think through and debate through this major strategic decision.
It was not easy. Some of you who are younger might not remember.
But I remember, as a civil servant, the big debate which was televised on the options – an all-bus system or an MRT system.
There were proponents for the MRT, as a city without MRT is almost impossible. But there were others who were extremely worried whether we can really afford it.
So sometimes today we spend money as if money comes easily. We forget that it was not too long ago. So when there are people who criticise the North-South and East-West Lines on why we did not do this and that, we were simply short of cash.
http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/comparing-singapores-newest-and-oldest-mrt-lines
He left out the elephant in the room: Dr Goh Keng Swee. He wasn’t convinced that an MRT would be cost effective. Hence the scrutiny the project underwent, even after the cabinet (sans Goh) had agreed to build it.
A contemporary of his, Sir John Cowperthwaite, HK’s financial secretary (17 April 1961 – 30 June 1971) had earlier opposed the building of the MRT system in HK, citing the cost: despite the traffic jams in the streets. Construction only began after he retired.
Here’s more on Sir John Cowperthwaite, who came to HK as a British civil servant in 1945. He should be interesting to S’poreans because he had views, some like that of Dr Goh, some unlike, on how to have a prosperous, thriving economy in a small state.
Like Dr Goh, he was for
Low taxes, lax employment laws, absence of government debt, and free trade are all pillars of the Hong Kong experience of economic development.
And
No deficit government financing, which could merely push costs to a future generation and make the territory vulnerable to financial upheaval.
[…]
Public housing would be funded, but only for tiny flats; reservoirs would be built, but users would be charged.
[…]
Requests by industry for subsidies were routinely rejected.
Architect of Prosperity: Sir John Cowperthwaite and the Making of Hong Kong
Sounds like a PAPpy?
But throughout the 1960s, Cowperthwaite refused to implement free universal primary education, contributing to the relatively high illiteracy rate among today’s older generation in HK.
And he really believed in the importance of the private sector, unlike the PAP (not excluding Dr Goh) who talked the talk of the importance but the private sector, but who made sure GLCs dominate the local economy.
“I myself tend to mistrust the judgment of anyone not involved in the actual process of risk-taking.” This faith was rewarded. As industries such as cotton spinning, enamelware and wigs declined and Cowperthwaite declined to offer assistance, businesses shifted their attention to promising areas such as toy and electronics production, and then finance. Migrants found work in the expanding industries, becoming a cog in a productive engine rather than merely a cost.
(Economist review)
But he allowed private sector cartels to continue to dominate the HK economy. In his time, it was the Hongs (Jardines, Swire and other ang moh Hongs) and the big banks (HSBC and StanChart). A tradition continued today with local property cos controlling the property mkt (no massive affordable public housing), and Cheung Kong, Jardines and Swire having a big share of the retail mkt, and HSBC and Bank of China dominating the finance sector.
Real dedication by CEO and founder: he died.
CEC International Holdings, the owner of a successful Hong Kong retail chain focused on snacks and drinks imported from across Asia, saw its share price more than double in value on Monday following the death of its founder and chief executive.
(FT on Tueday)
Why?
The jump also came after the chair of retailer Best Mart 360 told local newspaper Apple Daily he was interested in acquiring CEC for less than HK$1bn. Monday’s jump took CEC’s market capitalisation to HK$1.27bn.
(FT on Tueday)
At time of writing shares are 10% off Monday’s close.
On Tuesday (London time), StanChart reported half-year operating income of US$7.6bn, 6% more than in the same period last year. The stock dropped 3.5% trading because operating income was below expectations. Blame higher IT spending: costs in general have outgrown revenues by a whole percentage point. Not good.
FT’s Lex
StanChart investors must be counting on costs soon falling, relative to revenues. The hope should be for a leaner and cleaner bank ready to grow at the bottom of the next cycle.
adding
Shares in HSBC, another London-listed bank with an Asian focus, have climbed 63 per cent in the past two years, compared to 13 per cent at StanChart.
TOC, The Indians and other cybernut pubkications don’t report: “Hongkongers admire Singapore more than own city”
In a University of Hong Kong Public Opinion Programme poll asking 502 Hongkongers how they feel about different governments, the Lion City came out on top in a list of 14 places.
In contrast, Hong Kong was ranked 11th and Canada slipped to 2nd, from 1st in August last year. The US was at the bottom of the list of places that included regions in Greater China and other countries
Note that the piece not written by any of the ex-ST constructive, nation-building journalists in the SCMP newsroom. They now rather bite the hand that once fed them well. Once a Judas, always a Judas.
Anyway grass ia always greener on the other side. Juz ask Goh Meng Seng who even thinks that the cost of housing is lower in HK. Can you believe that? But then he’s a cybernut who helped the PAP’s preferred candidate win in 2011 PE. With enemies like him, how can the PAP ever lose?
Soon, Temasek will be contributing a bit more to the Budget.
[D]espite stellar economic growth in Asia, which accounts for over two-thirds of underlying pre-tax profit, the group is still destroying economic value. Return on equity, at 1.7 percent or 3.5 percent excluding exceptional items, is still far below the group’s cost of equity, which is probably more like 10 percent. Costs are rising, even as the group clamps down on loan losses.
After years of retrenchment, Winters needs turbocharged revenue growth and restraint on costs to hit his modest medium-term target for an ROE of 8 percent. Suppose operating costs grow just 2 percent annually, with flat loan losses and restructuring charges and taxes at 30 percent. StanChart would need 7 percent annual revenue growth to fulfil its aim by 2020, according to a Breakingviews calculation. That is more than double last year’s rate and at the top of the bank’s projected 5 to 7 percent range.
https://www.breakingviews.com/considered-view/stanchart-shareholders-pay-winters-a-compliment/
If things work out at StanChart (and elsewhere), maybe GST increase can be delayed? Dream on, pigs will fly first.
Update at 7.30am Chris K responded:
News like this does not impact the NIR Temasek delivers the budget becos the contribution is based on expected real returns over the long run.
I responded:
So long as no transparency shows how flakely is NIR. It’s want the PAP administration says it is.
Hong Kong has long had a lively retail investor scheme. Hong Kongers do not care much for games of chance, like roulette or lotteries. They prefer wagers on games of skill like horseracing, mahjong – and leveraged equity trading. Warrants are a preferred vehicle. But the uncomfortable reality is that spikes in warrant trading volume are an excellent sell signal. An increase in retail trading activity often presages a market fall.
FT: Letter from Lex
I was fooling around with this https://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2018/02/daily-chart-5 and among other things compared S’pore property valuations with that of HK. Something didn’t seem right about the S’pore valuations when I remembered some Bloomberg stuff I saw in 2016.
This is something cybernuts don’t tell us, especially the one who jets in from HK on his private jet to lecture us on why life in HK is a lot better in HK and why we must all sing “The East is Red” and even the Malays and Indians must be Chinese patriots.
Because of public housing, housing here is a lot more affordable.
Now if the PAP administration were a lot less obssesed about “stealing from the reserves” and “market pricing” (Market pricing? Market market pricing when the state is the largest player in the market what with its control of supply?), housing here could be a lot more affordable.
Coming back to local property prices, if u had keyed in S’pore in the Economist’s interactive model, like I did, you would have seen that valuations (historical and present) here are pretty decent. I suspect public housing data is included. Even if this is not, the public sector housing affects the private sector valuations.
In 2016, when China as a country grew at close to 7 per cent, StanChart’s revenue across greater China and north Asia declined by 15 per cent. While Southeast Asia GDP grew by nearly 5 per cent, StanChart’s revenue there shrank by 5 per cent. And in Africa and the Middle-East, another fast-growing region, the bank’s revenue was down 4 per cent. StanChart’s full-year numbers for 2017 have yet to be published, but at the last count its ROE was running at about 5 per cent …
Today’s FT
But first contrasting HK and S’pore in one sentence:
Tycoons are as synonymous with the story of modern Hong Kong as founding prime minister Lee Kuan Yew is with Singapore.
FT
But thinking about it, both share a common preoblem resulting from this contrast.
The article then goes on to analyse why young Hongkies are unhappy with the legacy of these tycoons. They dominate the HK economy, stifying the aspirations and creativity of the young. Even a tycoon’s heir can feel so frustrated that he has to enter the family business, in order to get on.
Sounds like the legacy that Harry left us. Because of Hard Truths, TLCs and other GLCs dominate our economy, stifling the aspirations and creativity of the young.
And the job market ain’t that good even for elite local grads.
Recently I spoke to a friend whose daughter, an NTU maths scholar, is just about to join a big local bank’s data mining development team on a one year internship (very decent pay). So far so good.
But the catch is that out of the previous cohort of NTU maths grads who finished their internships, only 3 out of 10 manage to get permanent jobs, some continuing on a yr to yr contract. They are told it’s the economy.
Meanwhile LKY’s son rows with his siblings and fixed the presidency so that a presidency reserved only for Malays, has none of the three declared candidates having an i/c saying “Malay”. As I wrote here:
The PAP’s candidate and a candidate who speaks Malay badly both have i/cs saying “Indian” while the third person has one saying “Pakistani”. Even for me who knows about the thin culture line between Malays and some Indian Muslims* am shocked that there isn’t someone with an i/c saying “Malay” willing to stand. Don’t want to be regarded as selling out to the PAP isit? Or unlike “Indians” and “Pakistanis” feeling piseh to stand in a presidency reserved only for “Malays”.
It juz has smart entrepreneurs that want to make money.
A few days later than promised because the temptation to pour scorn on Hali’s BS was too great. I had promised to talk about a place that even Silicon Valley envied; a place that grew without master plans drawn up by highly paid “technocrats”.
The “predominant epicenter of high-tech design and manufacturing in the world” is Shenzhen http://www.bbc.com/capital/gallery/20170809-inside-chinas-skyscraper-capital Shenzhen shows how a high-tech hub can develop without master plans or MNCs . It was a low-cost manufacturing centre for HK businesses that juz kept on moving up market without master plans being drawn up by bureaucrats. Granted its economic zone status was granted by fiat but then HK and S’pore were similarly kick started.
Shenzhen has risen to become the predominant epicenter of high-tech design and manufacturing in the world. Variously called the “world’s factory,” “the new Silicon Valley,” and the “maker’s dream city,” Shenzhen has a complete ecosystem that contains everything needed for all stages of electronics production all in one place. This has turned the city into a staging ground for large high-tech companies, rising startups, and independent innovators from all over the world looking to get their stuff made as efficiently as possible. Tech giants like Huawei, ZTE , and Tencent all got their starts here, and many more companies seem to be on the way up.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2016/07/14/a-look-inside-shenzhens-high-tech-empire/
And Shenzhen’s growth has benefited HK which despite its political problems outperforms S’pore. Once Shenzhen provided HK manufacturers with low-cost facilities, now Shenzhen’s manufacturers use HK to provide services like finance, insurance etc.
Just before the CEO retires. As Guardian says:
HSBC’s tale also shows what can happen when a big international bank stops shooting itself in the foot and avoids scandal. The cleanup of HSBC – forced by past scandals, notably the £1.2bn fine in the US for money-laundering offences plus tax avoidance scams in Switzerland – is finally delivering for shareholders.
And from NYT Dealbook
HSBC plans to buy back up to $2 billion in shares after its performance proved better than expected in the second quarter. |
The London-based bank has been overhauling its operations, shedding tens of thousands of jobs, selling underperforming businesses and shrinking its global investment banking business. And as its prospects have improved, it has announced $5.5 billion in share repurchases since the second half of last year. |
Profit was up to $3.9 billion in the second quarter, from $2.5 billion the year before. |
The bank is also headed toward a change of leadership. Mark Tucker, the chief executive of AIA, will replace Douglas Flint as chairman in October. Mr. Tucker will have to find a chief executive to replace Stuart Gulliver, the chief executive, who plans to retire. |
Uncle Redbean, Goh Meng Seng (Remember this adviser of wannabe-president TKL?) and other China tua kee nuts keep dissing the PAP administration for not kow-towing to Xi. They say S’pore should lick China’s ass because China is the coming hegemon. After all PM’s dad licked US’s ass and more.
To put things in perspective: if Hongkies are not happy with China, what does this show about China’s influence in the wider world? It can’t even influence opinion in HK to like it.
Hong Kong finds Beijing flunking soft-power test
China is flunking the soft-power test with Hong Kong. President Xi Jinping will visit the city to commemorate the 20-year anniversary of its triumphant return to Chinese control. But Beijing’s grip over hearts and minds in Hong Kong is weakening. That is a problem, since this a primarily ethnically Chinese, ruthlessly pragmatic city – people who one would expect to be sympathetic.
…
In Hong Kong, China has revealed an unfortunate pattern duplicated in other countries: a preference for working with elites, popular or not; a willingness to use money – or force – to silence criticism; disregard for the rule of law when it doesn’t suit current needs; and a general disdain for the carrot when the stick will do.
The irony is that Beijing is spending as never before on “soft power,” a phrase best simplified as “convincing other people to like you, and to want what you want.” It is rolling state television stations out across Africa, buying newspapers in Australia and radio stations in the United States. The Confucius Institutes, an unapologetic propaganda effort, subsidize pro-China education around the world.
But this hasn’t drowned out headlines from Hong Kong. For all the spending, Pew Global Research polls show negative views of China have increased in recent years. Beijing can throw money around all it wants, but if even Hong Kong won’t buy the message China is selling, it is hard to see it travelling well elsewhere.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-politics-breakingviews-idUSKBN19J0C3
Charts that show Hongkies are getting, feeling “less Chinese”. http://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/rngs/HONGKONG-POLL/010020KY1EB/index.html
KPM Holdings, a Singapore sign-maker, closed down 44% yesterday as microchips had a second day of falls.
List here and falls also the same leh.
GIC’s sale of at a loss of part of its stake in UBS reminded me that one Harry Lee boasted that S’pore was even more long term than Buffett: it had a 30 yr horizon. Well he said that in 2007 or 2008 after GIC bot UBS and Citi and Temask bot Barclays (sold) amd Merrill Lynch (disappeared), so it turns out he was talking cock: like on being a good friend of China? He was a running dog of the US going by the quality of the US crowd versus that of the PRC crowd at his funeral.
Now this is serious long term
— Jardines (controlling shareholder of Hongkong Land where the land in Central now resides) first bought freehold land in Central in 1901, and
— HSBC has owned its nearby site since 1866.
And that’s nothing. The Duke of Westminster has properties in central London dating from the 17th century.
Despite what a S’porean Oppo politician living in HK says, life here is surely better (The quotes about HK and Hongkies come from http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-38623439)
Hong Kongers enjoy free speech and a free press, but don’t have the right to democratic elections – meaning they can readily discuss what makes them unhappy, but have limited political means to change things.
We happier because we don’t enjoy free speech and a free press and so not frus (sans cybernuts like Oxygen) that our free but unfair elections can never change things. So why does Mad Dog Chee keep on banging his head against the wall? He doesn’t read his own analysis of S’pore isit? And what weed is he giving to smart people like Dr Paul to follow him? Police must investigate.
Hong Kong often ranks as having the least affordable housing in the world – and this “affects young people’s family planning, and their choice of future careers,” Dr Wong says.
Our public housing is affordable We got PAP looking after us from cradle to grave via the HDB system. More on this one of these days. Even TOC (writer Chris Kuan contributing) says “The reply by Housing Development Board (HDB) on resale prices and Lease Buyback Scheme (LBS) sums don’t seem to add up to resale buyers overpaying.” https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2017/04/28/hdb-reply-on-resale-prices-and-hdb-lbs-example-show-resale-buyer-are-not-overpaying/
The LBS is value fot money, is what Chris K wrote. Err wondering if Terry knew what he was publishing: a pro PAP piece?
Jennifer grew up in a public estate with her parents and brother – but says after her brother got married, the small two-bedroom flat became extremely cramped.
“For almost a year, I had to sleep on a sofa in the living room.”
Not having a room meant she struggled to sleep properly after a long day at work, especially after her brother and his wife had their first baby.
We got more room for sex.
According to one study, Hong Kong’s young people are the unhappiest they have been in a decade – and the least likely, of all age groups, to agree with the statement “life is really worth living”.
Other surveys find that 60% of those aged 18-29 want to emigrate, and 80% are unhappy with the political situation.
If Hong Kong’s youth appear particularly unhappy, it might be because of the territory’s unusual situation. It’s technically one of the richest territories in Asia, but also has one of the worst wealth gaps.
We not that bad.
As my FB avatar pointed out to Chris Kuan when I read his LBS piece,
Glad to see u realise that the faith of the 70% in PAP is not misplaced. LOL. Seriously, bet u a lot of the cybernuts following u on FB will stop following u …
Btw, anyone knows what happened to that Oppo politician living in HK who used to tell us that everything in HK is a lot better than in S’pore. He gone AWOL? Or MIA? Or in detention in China?
A DBS customer here I know says that he had getting overseas calls asking him to take out loans from DBS. He was surprised to get the calls and when he asked how he got on the call list, the line went dead, only for another call to come later.
Telemarketers contacted DBS clients to try to get them to borrow from the bank, with the employees and the call center splitting commissions, Apple Daily reported, without citing a source for its information. Some employees were sales staff who were authorized to sell loan products in branches or on the street but not by cold calling, it said.
Some DBS staff allegedly bribed department managers to get client data, including names and contact details, Apple Daily reported.
More from https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-09/hkma-expresses-concern-after-report-of-dbs-arrests-in-hong-kong
The Hong Kong Monetary Authority expressed concern after a newspaper said DBS Group Holdings Ltd. staff were arrested in a probe connected with an alleged leak of customer data.
The city’s Independent Commission Against Corruption began investigating after the data were supplied to a telemarketing center in mainland China, Apple Daily reported.
The Singapore-based DBS disputed the newspaper’s report that more than 20 current and former staff had been arrested, but wouldn’t specify a number.
In HK, the Legislative Council (LegCo) is the body that passes and rejects laws, and approves the government’s budget. It’s HK’s parliament.
Some call it “Rubbish Council” (punning on how the words “legislative” and “rubbish” sound similar in Cantonese), arguing the legislators are all talk and no action. BBC Online
Like in S’pore, major constitutional changes, including changes to the voting system, need to be passed by a two-thirds majority in the council (parly here). Pro-Beijing parties always win more seats but the “democrat” lobby always have at least 24 seats so they can veto changes they disagree with. And they’ve used this power repeatedly
In the latest LegCo elections on Sunday, the “democrat” lobby retained its veto power. They now have 30 seats.
Here the PAP can suka suka change the constitution because it has more than two-thirds majority, courtesy of 60- 70% of the voters.
Even if LegCo is Rubbish Council, the “democrat” lobby has a veto on constitutional changes.
Funny Goh Meng Seng and Uncle Redbean don’t praise the Hongkies for being smart enough to ensure that the pro-Beijing parties and China can be thwarted.
FYI, going in for cataract surgery on the right eye later today. After the final post op check-up (left eye) on Monday was offered an op on Tuesday on the right.
As I reported earlier many shareholders were disappointed that HSBC decide to remain HQed in the UK, and not retuen to HK.
Then it emerged that in 2012 Mr Osborne, the then UK Chancellorm interceded in the US Justice Department’s investigation into HSBC over money laundered through its American branches by Mexican drug lords. The DoJ was considering bringing charges on top of the fines it imposed on the bank, Britain’s biggest, but Mr Osborne argued that this would destabilise a “systemically important financial institution” and lead to “contagion”.
Now NYT Dealbook tells us more about how this intervention affected the DoJ’s decision to go easy on the maeco-bank
A BANK TOO BIG TO JAIL If you’ve ever wondered why the 2008 financial crisis generated almost no criminal prosecutions of large banks and their top executives, you should read the congressional report, “Too Big to Jail,” Gretchen Morgenson writes in Fair Game.
The report examines the Justice Department’s settlement with HSBC in 2012 after accusations that it laundered nearly $900 million for drug traffickers and processed transactions on behalf of countries subject to United States sanctions. It shows how regulators and prosecutors turned a potential criminal prosecution of HSBC into a watered-down settlement that insulated its executives and failed to take into account the full scope of the bank’s violations.
The bank and its American Subsidiary, HSBC Bank USA, agreed to pay almost $2 billion under the settlement, striking a deferred prosecution arrangement that remains in place. Under such deals, the government agrees to delay or forgo prosecution of a company if it promises to change its behavior.
The report concluded that the Justice Department’s leadership overruled an internal recommendation to prosecute HSBC, citing concerns “that prosecuting the bank ‘could result in a global financial disaster.'”
Peter Carr, a spokesman for the Justice Department, said it was “committed to aggressively investigating allegations of wrongdoing at financial institutions, and, along with our law enforcement partners, holding individuals and corporations responsible for their conduct.”
The facts outlined by prosecutors were damning enough to raise questions about why the bank had not been subject to harsher treatment and fueled the view that large financial institutions are not only too big to fail, but also too significant to be prosecuted criminally.
“The fact that so many of these cases are settled rather than going to court means we don’t get an airing of facts and challenges of facts,” said Edward J. Kane, a professor of finance at Boston College and an authority on regulatory failures. The report should be viewed as “evidence of an abuse of the regulatory system,” he added. “And unless proven otherwise, this is just the tip of the iceberg.”
Indonesia and PinoyLand head the list, HK is a pretty safe place.
CrossBorder Capital said its Emerging Markets Risk Index fell sharply in May and is now at its lowest level since 2012, having peaked in early 2015.
This measure is based on three components: financing risk, which measures the ability of EM entities to roll over their debt; forex risk, driven by the quality of liquidity in a country and how dependent it is on central bank money; and exposure risk, which flashes a warning sign if a high proportion of investment in a country is in risk assets such as equities and corporate debt, rather than lower-risk government bonds and cash.
FT
From NYT Deal book
Expiration Date on China’s Promises Stokes Unease in Hong Kong Housing Most banks have yet to formulate mortgage policies beyond 2047, when an agreement guaranteeing the city a high degree of autonomy runs out.
I’m sure Uncle Redbean and Goh Meng Seng will scold the banks foer being afraid. They look forward to the day when Chinese “rule of law” prevails in HK.
Don’t PAP ministers insist that minimum wages will destroy the S’pore economy?
These tots crossed my mind when I read the headline:
But after reading the report, more nuanced tots came to mind.
One tot: S’poreans want to restrict the flow of FTs but this it seems makes S’pore less competitive.
Singapore’s stricter rules on hiring foreign labor, which adds to business costs.
“The key difference between the two territories is Singapore’s restrictions on importing foreign labor, and their policy of boosting labor costs to discourage companies from being dependent on foreign labor,” said Brian Tan, an economist at Nomura in Singapore. “When you push labor costs, that’s going to have an effect on competitiveness.”
… Hong Kong’s labor market as more competitive than in Singapore, with the China-controlled territory improving from 2015 on scores such as working hours, skill levels, unemployment legislation and immigration levels.
Hong Kong also leads Singapore on business efficiency, including productivity and here PAP administration can’t blame the plebs management practices, according to IMD.
Next, there seems to be a disconnect between what the local PMETs (and even this retiree) feel and the “experts” say: FT policy to us is not restrictive what with FTs being allowed to become drivers and barbers.
Another tot:“It’s not just the economy, stupid,” says a poster by the Brexit campaign in the UK. And one of its charismatic leaders surely is right when he says, “We need to value people’s quality of life and standards of living and not just national GDP figures.” (But Brexit would say these rhings. The conventional economic wisdom is that the UK is doomed economically if it leaves the EU.)
Coming back to HK’s liberal FT policies: HK is Goh Meng Seng’s paradise on earth. Funny he doesn’t laud HK’s liberal immigration policies. He’s got his family there but thinks he is entitled to lecture us on the failings of the PAP. Surely the PAP in doing the popular thing (restricting FTs) is doing the wrong thing, and HK , GMS’s paradise on earth, the right thing?
Juz remember for S’poreans now:“It’s not just the economy, stupid. and”“We need to value people’s quality of life and standards of living and not just national GDP figures.”
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Stocks have been surging since February, helped by promising corporate earnings in the United States, the recovery of oil prices and indications of restraint on interest rate increases from the Federal Reserve.
There may be question marks over many parts of Hong Kong’s economy, but stocks there seemed to have shrugged all that off. The Hang Seng index rose 1.8 percent on Thursday, while the MSCI Hong Kong Index closed at its highest point since Nov. 24. Optimists say concerns over monetary tightening from the Federal Reserve and the weakening renminbi have eased, and the shares are too cheap to pass up, Bloomberg News reports.
But George Soros is warning markets that China’s financial system is at risk and the rise in credit will be the downfall for world’s second biggest economy.
Speaking at an Asia Society event in New York on Wednesday, Soros said the similarities between the credit markets in China “eerily resemble” to those of the United States in 2007 before the financial crisis.
Recent stimulus packages in China have seen sharp rises in asset prices – namely in the housing and construction sector, but Soros believes these have been fueled by excessive lending to underperforming industries.
“Most of the money that banks are supplying [in China] is needed to keep bad debts and loss-making enterprises alive,” Soros said.
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HSBC Chief Said to Leave in Two Years Stuart Gulliver, HSBC’s chief executive, will step down in two years, and the bank has already started compiling a list of possible internal successors, The Sunday Times reports, citing senior sources.
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Naving him as CEO since 3011 is like us kanna Mah Bow Tan and Raymond Lim and Taacob at the same time.
Here’s an interesting tot from FT reader on executive salaries
“Chief executives are agents for owners, the shareholders. They should be treated the same way as football club managers. Your team performs badlly and you are promptly sacked. Preferably they should have only one or two year’s contracts, to be ended on expiry without compensation.”
By Brian Reading on Four ways to bring galactic executive pay back down to earth
People and assets.
HSBC’s so-so results prompts th=hs analysis. Results fr 2015 were flat after an expected US$1,9bn 4Q pre-tax profit turned into a loss of US$858m.
As at August 2015, Asia accounted for 69% of HSBC’spre-tax profits. And HK, China is where the money is minted.
Well these show that ang mohs and Indians: people and assets are lazing in the sun.
Yes India is in Asia but look at the number of Indians employed, more than the Honkies. HK is the place that HSBC makes its money, not india but there are more Indians working for HSBC than Hongkong people.
Related post: StanChart’s very own Little India.
Update at 10.45 am: http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/2016/02/22/hsbc-shares-weighed-down-by-fear-of-future/
Update at 4.30pm; From NYT Dealbook: HSBC’S FOURTH-QUARTER LOSSES HSBC, Britain’s largest bank by assets, posted a loss of $1.33 billion for the three months ending Dec. 31,Chad Bray reports in DealBook. It had posted a profit of $511 million in the fourth quarter of 2014. Before taxes, the bank posted a loss of $858 million.
The bank also revealed in its earnings statement that it was under investigation by the Securities and Exchange Commission over its hiring practices in Asia. Several banks are under scrutiny after the commission opened an inquiry into whether JPMorgan Chase hired the children of powerful officials to help win lucrative business contracts.
HSBC did not give any further details on the investigation.
Its results were weighed down by restructuring costs, provisions for legal and regulatory matters, loan impairment charges and provisions for credit risk.
The bank is in the process of reshaping its operations, shedding tens of thousands of jobs, selling underperforming businesses and shrinking its global investment banking business.
“China’s slower economic growth will undoubtedly contribute to abumpier financial environment, but it is still expected to be the largest contributor to global growth,” Douglas Flint, the HSBC chairman, said in a news release.
Goh Meng Seng keeps on harping on how good life is in HK compared to S’pore. His daughter’s schooling and healhcare costs are cheaper* there. HK is Heaven, S’pore is Hell he implies.
Funny he doesn’t tell us that this is the 6th yr in a row that HK tops this index. It’s not uncommon for entire families to live in spaces less than 50 sq m. Btw, there are no “cage homes” — tiny bunks stacked atop each other and enclosed by metal grating — here.
Nothing heard on thr issue of housing affordability in HK by Memg Seng who prefers to talk cock about the golden dinar.
The PAP administration can do more to bring affordbility levels to those at the end of the 90s, early noughties: 15- 20 yrs of paying mortgages not the present 25 yrs. But hey let’s not pretend that S’pore isn’t too bad.
And remember GMS’s silence on HK people critical of China diappearing. They on his UFO? (He believes in the UFOs, having claimed to have seen one (or was it in one?)
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*Err Value for money or not he doesn’t say. He focuses on the cost. Btw, he can’t persuade his wife to stay here but wants us to vote him into parly?
Parachutist extraordinaire, (Three GEs, three different parties, three GRCs and a diminishing share of votes) Goh Meng Seng is at it again, dissing S’pore in favour of his adopted home. HK. Where everything is better.
Here’s one area where S’pore is tops according to a HK newspaper.
The city-state’s financial regulator has set up a test for centres looking to host sensitive data from banks, called a threat vulnerability and risk assessment (TVRA).
In order to pass, the centres must weather severe natural disasters and even attacks from rocket-propelled grenades.
Intruders to one of these heavily guarded units should beware of the “mantraps”. This type of security door will lock down upon detecting a breach, trapping within bewildered, defenceless data burglers.
The test also has an equally stringent cyber security assessment in place to ensure the centres can keep most hackers out.
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It could just be a marketing element from the regulator. But if it is, it’s a good one,” Krupal Raval, senior vice president for finance at Digital Realty, told the South China Morning Post in an interview. “From a banking perspective, we see more activity in Singapore. That’s because [regulators] are more proactive in reaching out.”
By “reaching out”, Raval means that the Monetary Authority of Singapore is signalling to banks and other financial institutions they can safely outsource sensitive data operations. The TVRA is the monetary authority’s stamp of approval on the centres at a time when a data breach on banks can spell out massive fines and a loss of reputation.
Digital Realty is one of the world’s biggest data centre companies, with major hubs in both Hong Kong and Singapore.
The 177,000 square-foot facility in Singapore has passed the TVRA test, something that the company said has attracted the interest of financial institutions looking to outsource sensitive financial data from clients.
Not so for Hong Kong, however. Digital Realty operates an even larger centre in the Tseung Kwan O industrial estate. It has a tier-III rating from the Uptime Institute, which is mainly concerned with how much time the plant must be shut down in order to be maintained.
While Raval says that site is just as secure as the one in Singapore, banks are less likely to outsource in Hong Kong without a financial regulator’s thumbs-up on the centres. Financial institutions in Singapore can outsource data operations only to centres that have the TVRA. Hong Kong regulators do not have an equivalent assessment. Spokespeople at the Hong Kong Monetary Authority and Financial Services and the Treasury Bureau said they could not answer questions on the topic.
“It would be an opportunity for Hong Kong going forward,” Raval said of instituting a similar test. And a missed opportunity for the time being as companies holding sensitive client data search for safer but cheaper ways to do their businesses.
Banks have traditionally built expensive in-house data centres to reduce the risk of breaches. Offering regulator-approved choices for outsourcing the work presents an attractive option for financial firms moving to Asia.
The stringent regulations for data centres were just part of Singapore’s digital competitiveness. The 15 submarine fibre optics cables connected to the city have boosted connectivity and lowered costs, says Clement Goh, South Asia managing director at Equinix.
“As such, a multitude of companies are not just flocking to Singapore but choosing to headquarter their businesses here,” he says. Equinix is another one of the world’s biggest data centre companies with centres in both Hong Kong and Singapore. “This definitely gives us a competitive edge over our other counterparts in the region without such regulatory measures in place.”
She was the deputy editor of ST and earlier this yr joined the SCMP in HK. Great timing. Alibaba will pay HK$2.06bn (US$266m; £175m) for SCMP.
Alibaba Buying South China Morning Post, Aiming to Influence Media The Chinese Internet giant said the deal was fueled by a desire to improve China’s image and offer an alternative to the biased lens of Western news outlets.
(NYT Dealbook)
Given her role* in ST as a cheerleader, class-monitor and enforcer for the PAP administration in ST, she’ll fit in very well under the new regime in HK. Her husband, Cherian George, a vocal social activist here (calling for a free press here is his obsession) but now lecturing on media (because of his obsession) in a HK uni, must be a happy man.
His wife can put her well-honed skills to good use in the service of Alibaba to improve China’s image and offer an alternative to the biased lens of Western news outlets.
The couple must be oprning the champers.
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*She was a major-general in the Imperial Stormtroop Paper division and a padawan Sith Lord.
“For IoT [internet of things], we see Hong Kong as much more advantageous than other places like Singapore because of its proximity to Shenzhen and the ease with which you can rapidly develop prototypes,” the FT quotes VXC David Chen . He helped investee co Hanson Robotics, move from Texas to Hong Kong’s Science Park