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Do PJ, Kirsten and friends still want Tun to bring democracy to S’pore?

In Uncategorized on 21/06/2019 at 3:31 pm

I refer to

According to Kirsten Han, PJ Thum “urged (Mahathir) to take leadership in Southeast Asia for the promotion of democracy, human rights, freedom of expression and freedom of information”.

Kirsten Han trying to defecate herself and PJ out of self-made crater

and am wondering if they still think he’s the Messiah to liberate S’pore from the PAP?

A day after the MH17 plane crash inquiry team announced murder charges against four men, Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad has condemned the decision as “ridiculous”.

However, Malaysia is itself part of the Dutch-led joint investigation team (JIT), which has been working on the criminal inquiry for years. A foreign ministry statement said it remained committed to the inquiry process.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48702115

Related posts:

Still urging Tun to take leadership in SE Asia; PJ, Kirsten?

Tun’s greatest achievement and real Kiling unhappy

 

TOC recovering from its anti-Nas fever/ Why TOC keeps on making “honest mistakes”?

In Internet on 23/04/2019 at 11:06 am

Further to TOC, cybernuts juz plain jealous isit?, I was about to KPKB that TOC was becoming xenophobic citing as evidence its nasty comments on Nas, especially harping that he’s a foreigner. Doesn’t sound like the Terry I know.

But I changed my mind when TOC responded to this on FB

Another foreigner telling us how good our Gahmen is. Just what we need…..
VTO

by saying

I need to defend Nas on this. He actually answered it very well in his reply to a question posed by a member of public. The guy from Pakistan who is based in Singapore, asked if Nas will be talking about the good and bad in Singapore, since he is settling down here for the time being.

Nas said that he recognises that he is still a foreigner in Singapore and it is not his position to tell what is good and what is bad but he tries to bring out the best of whatever he gets in touch with. Will put up the video of that if I can.

The problem is that audience of his videos, think that he can cover all aspect of a matter within one min and if he says it is good, means nothing is wrong.

(Sounds like Terry of Terry’s Online Channel, not one of his goons.)

commented
Good to see that TOC is recovering from it’s anti-Nas bout (that almost became xenophobic fever). I suppose Kirsten Han’s article helped the recovery.
Readers will know that I’m no fan of Kirsten Han but she got this right:
Nas Daily might not be playing politics—I seriously doubt he knows that much about Singaporean politics, anyway
She went on
—but the PAP is
Obviously, she doesn’t believe
Nas Daily fan meet a ‘non-cause based’ event, Public Order Act permit not required: Police
Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/nas-daily-fan-meet-a-non-cause-based-event-public-order-act-11462242
But then she wouldn’t believe anything the S’pore govt or any govt agency says, would she? To be fair, if an ang moh publication like NYT or the Guardian says that the PAP govt is right, she’d agree thru gritted teeth: she is one of those ang moh tua kee types. Read this if you want to know more about what else she said: https://www.kirstenhan.com/blog/2019/4/19/tfw-its-not-actually-about-nas-daily?fbclid=IwAR2PCtBGdK9kunMTEbC_5jM-Z42q1tJ4YpS02kH_vr4KnNo0qKuvsMmWLTo
Sad that cybernuts active on social media can’t distinguish between Nas and the PAP govt, and attack him personally when they should be focusing their attacks on the PAP govt for using him (as they perceive it) for its own agenda (as they perceive it). But with enemies like the cybernuts, the PAP doesn’t need friends. For that many S’poreans are grateful.
Whatever, Terry should investigate why his team keeps making “honest mistakes”, this year:
Maybe some ISD or PAP operative working in TOC is giving Terry and others the wrong pills or slipping drugs into their drinks. But most likely, Terry and his team need to consult Dr Ang Yong Guan. They could be going nuts.

More evidence that being anti-PAP is bad for yr mental health

Spending too much time in TRELand is bad for one’s mental health

He’s expensive. But I’m sure, he’ll give a hefty discount to comrades still fighting the good fight. For the record, he’s not retired from the good fight: juz resting between general elections?

 

Still urging Tun to take leadership in SE Asia; PJ, Kirsten?

In Malaysia on 20/12/2018 at 10:31 am

According to Kirsten Han, PJ Thum “urged (Mahathir) to take leadership in Southeast Asia for the promotion of democracy, human rights, freedom of expression and freedom of information”.

Kirsten Han trying to defecate herself and PJ out of self-made crater

Do they still believe that he’s the messiah SE Asia needs?

NHS rubber gloves made in Malaysian factories accused of forced labour

Exclusive: firms supplying health service allegedly exploit thousands of migrants

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/business

(Their favourite ang moh newspaper)

Champion for human rights ? What champion  for human rights?

And does a champion for human rights do this?

in September, Dr Mahathir told the United Nations General Assembly that Malaysia would ratify all the human rights conventions it had yet to adopt, a total of six, including the measure against racial discrimination.

Then, Dr Mahathir had promised that Malaysia will espouse the principles promoted by the UN in its international engagements, saying: “It is within this context that the new government of Malaysia has pledged to ratify all remaining core UN instruments related to the protection of human rights.”

But he had added: “It will not be easy for us because Malaysia is multi-ethnic, multi-religious, multicultural and multilingual.”

Later in November, the Malaysian government backpedaled on its decision and chose not to ratify ICERD because it would require a two-thirds majority in parliament to amend the Federal Constitution.

“ICERD promotes freedom and less discrimination. Article 153 (of the Constitution) gives some privileges to the indigenous people, which means some may interpret it as being discriminatory,” Dr Mahathir had told the media. “If we tried to abolish these privileges, it will go against Article 153.”

The Pakatan Harapan government does not have a two-thirds majority in Parliament. Furthermore, several Pakatan Harapan MPs stated that they were not in favour of the ratification.

The proposed ratification of ICERD had also drawn criticism and protests from government and opposition representatives as well as NGOs.

Many feared that its implementation may undermine some of the privileges enshrined in the Federal Constitution and dilute privileges for ethnic Malays, who form the majority in the country.

Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/anti-icerd-rally-umno-pas-kl-white-shirts-11013422

Are these the reasons why the diabolical duo are so quiet about Tun’s behaviour towards S’pore recently? They don’t know where to hide their asses?

I doubt they are ashamed of their actions because they are the kind of people who believe in “Licking the ass of the enemy of my enemy”.

Whatever two cheers for Tan Kin Lian: he has

the balls to speak out in support of Tun unlike Tun brown nosers Tan Wah Piow, PJ Thum and Kirsten Han* ( “Antics Of Civil Society Activists Endanger Opposition Cause”); and Jolovan Wham: Nothing wrong in asking Tun M to intervene in S’porean affairs. Their silence is deafening shameful and in character. Sad.

Tan Kin Lian thinks Tun is more sinned against than sinning

“Antics Of Civil Society Activists Endanger Opposition Cause”

In Malaysia on 11/09/2018 at 10:04 am

Not me but Ajay a writer to TRE. The relevant extracts reproduced below as is the full piecebelow. Needless to say, the reaction to it and the earlier reaction to my WTF! With PAP on the ropes why this self-inflicted distraction? showed that like PJ Thum, Kirsten Han, Jovolan Wham, the TRE cybernuts do not wish S’pore well: because Tun (like them) hates the PAP, they (the TRE cybernuts) are happy to team up with him overlooking the fact that he also hates S’poreans.

(Aside I was planning to stop posting on this topic but Tan Wah Piow, cybernuts and their ang moh tua kee allies want to keep the conversation going, helping the PAP distract attention from bread and butter issues. With enemies like these, PAP is very lucky.)

As Chris K posted on FB

The philosopher and sometime novelist G.K Chesterton once noted,

“Evil always wins through the strength of its splendid dupes; and there has in all ages been a disastrous alliance between abnormal innocence and abnormal sin.”

The PAP is always lucky to have its “splendid dupes” among its critics and opponents. If you think “splendid dupes” is too cheem, then use the more common “useful fools”. The fools should give their brains a chance and not fall in love with the sound of their own voices.


PAP govt a point

“The three individuals [I assume this means Crazy Rich Asian PJ Thum, his side-kick Kirsten Han and Jovolan Wham] claim that they are patriots. It is not patriotic to invite any foreign leader to intervene in Singapore politics, especially the leader of a country who has declared his desire to increase the price of water to Singapore by more than 10 times, and with whom we seek to maintain close and friendly relations.

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Back to Ajay, here are the most impt bits of what he has to say:

The problem with civil society activists and far left Singaporeans is that they are living in a bubble, unwilling and unable to see how their radical beliefs are unpalatable to the conservative Singaporean electorate. Are they so accustomed to their echo chambers that they do not go out and interact with everyday people living in HDB flats? The average Singaporean is not bothered about greater freedom of speech, freedom of expression or harsh defamation laws. He does not support sodomy and does not want gay marriage to be legalized in Singapore. He also does not want drug traffickers to be spared from the death penalty. Nor does he care about the incessant whining of ISA detainees about their supposedly wrong detention in 1987 or about some old folks detained under Operation Coldstore for allegedly being communists. Yes, yes, these are all issues that a bleeding heart liberal would care about. But they are not bread and butter issues and are thus of no concern to ordinary people.

The civil society activists’ approach suggests that they think that making the loudest noise will help their cause. They are out of touch with Singaporeans. Instead of spouting rhetoric about the kind of Singapore that they want to see, they should be working with the Singapore that exists before their eyes. What they are doing is akin to pounding one’s head against the unmoving wall. They can talk about their pet issues, but if they want to achieve any more than that, they should go door to door and have conversations with Singaporeans and try to win them over. That would be the more effective approach. The more they are in the public eye for controversial antics such as the Mahathir meeting, the more they hurt the opposition cause as swing voters do not view their actions in a positive light and unfortunately lump them together with the credible opposition figures.

In the lead up to GE2015, attention was taken away from the rising cost of living, the influx of foreigners and the difficult job market resulting from the stagnating economy. Part of this was due to the antics of diehard anti-PAP fanatics like Roy Ngerng, Han Hui Hui and Amos Yee. The political narrative shifted away from the PAP government’s shortcomings. Instead we heard disorganized chants of “Return my CPF” as a small bunch of protesters heckled special needs kids, and credible anti-PAP voices were drowned out by the noise about donating to self-styled freedom fighter Roy Ngerng who was being sued by the prime minister for posting defamatory comments on his blog.

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The reason I write this is not because I want to pour cold water on the enthusiasm of hardcore opposition supporters itching to blame the PAP but because I want readers to learn from history. How does it help the opposition cause when activists create controversy, get in trouble and then play the victim card, claiming political persecution? These activists should think of the optics. Swing voters are not moved the slightest. Contrary to what they think, the PAP does not fear a confrontational opposition. A confrontational opposition is actually easier for the PAP to defeat because of their tendency to go off the rails at times while being passionate about a cause. Like Roy Ngerng, these civil society activists will find themselves alone if they end up sued or arrested, should any of their hare-brained antics go wrong. Keep the narrative focused on bread and butter issues such as the affordability of HDB flats, the retirement age, the rising cost of living and the scarcity of jobs, and people will take note of the opposition. That is the only way to win seats in a politically and socially conservative nation.

I remind that Secret Squirrel and Morocco Mole tell me that think PJ, think the Youngs of Crazy Rich Asians. And his side kick Kirsten Han, although poor, doesn’t know S’pore is in SE ASia, and    says nothing wrong in asking Tun

Ajay’s piece in full. Btw, Terry Xu says that the first para contains false allegations. As far as I’m concerned they are fair (albeit unfair) comments on what PJ and gang did.

Antics Of Civil Society Activists Endanger Opposition Cause

I was aghast at the antics of the Singaporean activists last week. It was categorically wrong for them to meet Malaysian Prime Minister Dr Mahathir and request for him to promote democracy in Southeast Asia. This was potentially damaging to Singapore’s international reputation as these activists may have portrayed Singapore negatively in front of a foreign politician. I also strongly disagree with Dr Thum Ping Tjin’s facebook comments (LINK) that suggest Singapore should merge with Malaysia. The last thing most Singaporeans want right now is merger with a country that practices bumiputera policy which discriminates against capable and competent Chinese and Indians, and forces them to live with the fear that they could be ruled by sharia law someday.

On 30 August, former SDP member Teo Soh Lung posted on her Facebook page (LINK) that “PAP government should take note that today’s young citizens will not bow to unreasonable pressure and they have access to leaders in the region”. This was followed by another facebook post on August 31, in which she stated her view that “Association with foreign leaders, whether in government or in opposition should be the norm” and justified the meeting because everyone has “the right of association”.

From the first post, the implication is that Singaporeans can seek help from foreign leaders in the region if they do not like the PAP government. The view Ms Teo has expressed in the second post is erroneous because the nation’s carefully cultivated international reputation could be in tatters in days if every political dissident runs to a foreign leader and badmouths Singapore in front of the media whenever he or she feels like it. After all, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Ultimately, Singaporeans will suffer, not just the PAP. This sort of scorched earth approach is not one a loyal opposition would take. A loyal opposition would not resort to mudslinging whenever the opportunity arises nor would it resort to destabilizing an elected government in order to seize power. A loyal, constructive and responsible opposition would disagree with the PAP within Singapore’s boundaries, contest elections, argue passionately before the electorate and offer alternative ideas to drive the country forward. A loyal opposition would understand that despite differences in political beliefs with the PAP, they should align themselves with the government of the day when it comes to foreign policy and issues of Singapore’s sovereignty. Why? Because criticizing Singapore in front of foreigners is not patriotic, nor is it helpful to the average Singaporean who is struggling to make ends meet.
This brings back memories. In 1995, Dr Chee along with two SDP members attended a dialogue at Williams College where a Singaporean political dissident and fugitive, Francis Seow criticized Singapore’s judiciary in front of a foreign audience
(LINK).

Neither Dr Chee nor the SDP members present rebutted Francis Seow or even voiced a mild opinion that Singapore was not like that. This behaviour was strongly condemned by the Singapore parliament, including then opposition MP Chiam See Tong. I urge TOC readers to look up Mr Chiam’s speech. His words are still true and they are apt for this recent incident involving the activists meeting Dr Mahathir. The Dr Chee of the past made several similar missteps, including this cringe-inducing video (LINK) in which he asked US president Barack Obama to take note of the human rights abuses in Singapore and take actions to get Singapore to join the ‘community of democracy’. The Dr Chee of today is more restrained, politically mature, willing to work within the Singapore political system and has focussed on bread and butter issues, but his past mistakes still weigh heavy on the SDP, especially during elections.
Both the activists of today and the Dr Chee of the past believed that foreign interference in Singapore politics is necessary to bring democracy to Singapore. But they do not consider the wishes of the overwhelming majority of Singaporeans who do not want liberal democracy in Singapore. If you ask the general public in Singapore, most of them will agree that there is already enough democracy in Singapore. You may call them brainwashed or ‘the 70%’ but that changes nothing. Singapore’s politics is for Singaporeans to decide. Any attempt by a foreign power to impose a liberal agenda on Singapore will only result in a conservative backlash against the opposition. That was what happened at GE1997. The SDP lost all its seats and has failed to attain 40% of the votes in any constituency ever since. As the impatient far left seized the political narrative and focussed on abstract and irrelevant civil rights issues, the opposition as a whole suffered. Moderate opposition parties were also affected by the taint and became unable to win more than 2 seats for 14 years until the Workers’ Party won Aljunied GRC in 2011.

The problem with civil society activists and far left Singaporeans is that they are living in a bubble, unwilling and unable to see how their radical beliefs are unpalatable to the conservative Singaporean electorate. Are they so accustomed to their echo chambers that they do not go out and interact with everyday people living in HDB flats? The average Singaporean is not bothered about greater freedom of speech, freedom of expression or harsh defamation laws. He does not support sodomy and does not want gay marriage to be legalized in Singapore. He also does not want drug traffickers to be spared from the death penalty. Nor does he care about the incessant whining of ISA detainees about their supposedly wrong detention in 1987 or about some old folks detained under Operation Coldstore for allegedly being communists. Yes, yes, these are all issues that a bleeding heart liberal would care about. But they are not bread and butter issues and are thus of no concern to ordinary people.

The civil society activists’ approach suggests that they think that making the loudest noise will help their cause. They are out of touch with Singaporeans. Instead of spouting rhetoric about the kind of Singapore that they want to see, they should be working with the Singapore that exists before their eyes. What they are doing is akin to pounding one’s head against the unmoving wall. They can talk about their pet issues, but if they want to achieve any more than that, they should go door to door and have conversations with Singaporeans and try to win them over. That would be the more effective approach. The more they are in the public eye for controversial antics such as the Mahathir meeting, the more they hurt the opposition cause as swing voters do not view their actions in a positive light and unfortunately lump them together with the credible opposition figures.

In the lead up to GE2015, attention was taken away from the rising cost of living, the influx of foreigners and the difficult job market resulting from the stagnating economy. Part of this was due to the antics of diehard anti-PAP fanatics like Roy Ngerng, Han Hui Hui and Amos Yee. The political narrative shifted away from the PAP government’s shortcomings. Instead we heard disorganized chants of “Return my CPF” as a small bunch of protesters heckled special needs kids, and credible anti-PAP voices were drowned out by the noise about donating to self-styled freedom fighter Roy Ngerng who was being sued by the prime minister for posting defamatory comments on his blog. Ngerng posted videos and wrote blog posts, expressing that he had “believed that within a few months, Singaporeans would have thronged the streets and the PAP would be unseated” (Source). He compared himself to a ‘hero’ and apologized for being unable to be a MP for Singaporeans. In the general election, he lost miserably, barely managing to get 21% of the votes. Clearly he was no ‘hero’ in the eyes of most Singaporeans and it had all been for nothing.

Another loud and distracting political saga was the “Free Amos Yee” movement in which the rude kid Amos insulted religion and denigrated the memory of Singapore’s founding Prime Minister at a time when emotions were still raw about his passing. In the controversial video, Amos even claimed that he had talked with a SDP member. In the wake of his arrest, he was warmly supported by activists and some opposition politicians but they performed a flip flop and turned against him after he slandered Vincent Law. Nevertheless, the opposition suffered because of these events, especially since the election was held at a time when Mr Lee Kuan Yew’s legacy was at the forefront of everyone’s minds.

I am a proud opposition supporter. The reason I write this is not because I want to pour cold water on the enthusiasm of hardcore opposition supporters itching to blame the PAP but because I want readers to learn from history. How does it help the opposition cause when activists create controversy, get in trouble and then play the victim card, claiming political persecution? These activists should think of the optics. Swing voters are not moved the slightest. Contrary to what they think, the PAP does not fear a confrontational opposition. A confrontational opposition is actually easier for the PAP to defeat because of their tendency to go off the rails at times while being passionate about a cause. Like Roy Ngerng, these civil society activists will find themselves alone if they end up sued or arrested, should any of their hare-brained antics go wrong. Keep the narrative focused on bread and butter issues such as the affordability of HDB flats, the retirement age, the rising cost of living and the scarcity of jobs, and people will take note of the opposition. That is the only way to win seats in a politically and socially conservative nation.

Ajay

Kirsten Han trying to defecate herself and PJ out of self-made crater

In Uncategorized on 05/09/2018 at 10:06 am

And if as Secret Squirrel and Morocco Mole tell me, that he’s as rich as the Youngs of Crazy Rich Asians fame, PJ should employ a better defender and PR woman. With helper like this, he doesn’t need enemies.

In defending him, her spins and rebuttals are full of holes.

First

Contrary to Mr Seah’s assertion, Dr Thum had not asked Dr Mahathir to bring democracy to Singapore, Ms Han said … he had “urged (Mahathir) to take leadership in Southeast Asia for the promotion of democracy, human rights, freedom of expression and freedom of information”, she reiterated.

(Yes I’m using extracts from the constructive, nation-building media)

Excuse isn’t S’pore part of SE Asia. She’s live here and she doesn’t know this? Think S’pore off the coast of Europe isit? Or off Califonia?

So not wrong to argue that PJ really wants the M’sian PM Tun M ” to take leadership for the promotion of democracy, human rights, freedom of expression and freedom of information” in S’pore. We part of SE Asia loh.

And ain’t this asking him “to bring democracy to Singapore”? Given that people like her call S’pore repressive (and getting worse) and PJ had “urged (Mahathir) to take leadership in Southeast Asia for the promotion of democracy, human rights, freedom of expression and freedom of information”.


The potential flippers [people who may vote for Oppo] dislike and mistrust Tun. And here are five ant-PAPpies telling him to free S’pore from the PAP. This may not be the truth but it’s plausible and the PAP is spinning like hell that they want him to free S’pore from the PAP.

.PJ Thum cares about S’pore?


(Aside: M’sian Finance Minister’s escape from a court case had me thinking “Great to know that some things never change in M’sia since Tun became PM all those years ago.” Wondering why PJ Thum didn’t ask Tun to bring his core competencies and skills to the rest of SE Asia?)

Next

Ms Han also noted that Dr Thum’s Facebook post was not about “declaring Singapore a part of Malaysia, but merely a reference to our own history”.

Adding that Singapore’s first Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew had declared independence from the British on Aug 31, 1963, Ms Han said: “So Aug 31 is an ‘unofficial independence day’ for the people of Singapore. As Lee Kuan Yew said, it signified the end of colonial British rule in Singapore.”

KInda tenious the link between what LKY said in 1963 and did (review a parade) and “So Aug 31 is an ‘unofficial independence day’ for the people of Singapore”.

We were about to join M’sia, so fair to join in the celebrations on 31 August and link it to our becoming free of the ang mohs.

We soon realised that joining M’sia was a bad idea and “an honest mistake” of the PAP. We were then glad that we got kicked of M’sia with so little trouble and no suffering.

And she (cunningly?) ignored PJ Thum’s post on 31 August 2016,which sneered at what LKY did on 31August 1963

50 years ago today: Lee Kuan Yew, frustrated with the delay in the creation of Malaysia, unilaterally announced the independence of Singapore. In a rare show of unity, the international community rolled their eyes and ignored him. Happy 50th Illegal Independence Day, Singapore!

Finally

She also said that the Singaporeans did not attend the meeting with Dr Mahathir “as a collective, but as a group of individuals”.

Sorry I find this impossible to believe given the personal links between four of them, and the personal link between PJ and Tan Wah Piow.

I think it’s time for her and PJ (If they want to show that it’s wrong to surmise that they do “not wish Singapore well”) to do what the last para in SDP’s statement says S’poreans should do

The SDP acknowledges that Mr Seah Kian Peng has apologised for his erroneous statement on his FB where he had involved our party in a controversy over a meeting some Singaporean activists had with Dr Mahathir.

The SDP accepts Mr Seah’s apology.

While we may differ in our views on how to take Singapore forward, politicians should not resort to questioning their opponents’ loyalty to our nation. No matter what our political persuasion, we all remain faithful and committed to this country.

Let us move on and focus our attention on tackling the issues that affect the lives of our fellow citizens.

But when was the last time you heard them KPKBing about the cost of living, HDB leases and other issues that affect ordinary S’poreans? A Crazy Richb Asian and his Girl Friday don’t know squat among ordinary S’poreans.

For what it’s worth, going by their words and actions over the last few yrs, I think they do “not wish Singapore well”. But they are not traitors, juz a variant form of useful idiots that help the PAP retain power: like Tan Kin Lian and Tan Jee Say.

In political jargon, a useful idiot is a derogatory term for a person perceived as a propagandist for a cause of whose goals they are not fully aware and who is used cynically by the leaders of the cause.[1][2] The term was originally used to describe non-Communists regarded as susceptible to Communist propaganda and manipulation.[1] The term has often been attributed to Vladimir Lenin, but this attribution is controversial.[3][4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot

As for Jovolan Wham, my respect for him as a social activist working to help migrant workers and maids combat injustice made me keep quiet about his views on other things. But no more since Jolovan Wham: Nothing wrong in asking Tun M to intervene in S’porean affairs

I view him like I view PJ Thum and Kirsten Han.

 

 

 

PJ Thum cares about S’pore?

In Uncategorized on 03/09/2018 at 11:25 am

From his ang moh tua kee PR agent

I’ve worked closely with PJ for two years now. I know him to be someone who thinks and cares deeply about Singapore and its people. I know him as someone who piles both work and risk on himself, for very little reward, because he is committed to this country. He was told that he would never work in Singapore as an academic again, but he’s still trying to come home permanently, because he wants to contribute to Singapore. I’d like to reassure Mr Seah here: in all the time that I’ve spent with PJ, I’ve never seen any indication or evidence that he wishes Singapore ill.

https://www.kirstenhan.com/blog/2018/9/1/a-response-to-mr-seah-kian-pengs-allegations

So why does PJ Thum help the PAP change the conversation? See WTF! With PAP on the ropes why this self-inflicted distraction?

It’s clear from the FB postings I’m seeing that those PAP voters who can be flipped are angry with the antics of PJ Thum, Kirsten Han Jolovan Lam, Tan Wah Piow and Sonny Liew in meeting Tun. The potential flippers dislike and mistrust Tun. And here are five ant-PAPpies telling him to free S’pore from the PAP. This may not be the truth but it’s plausible and the PAP is spinning like hell that they want him to free S’pore from the PAP .

If PJ really cares about S’pore why sabo and help the PAP tar those who oppose PAP hegemony.

Give me a break.

As to this about PJ

he’s still trying to come home permanently, because he wants to contribute to Singapore

Secret Squirrel and Morocco Mole tell me that their ISD cousins say that that his specialisation on S’pore’s history (he doesn’t have wider SE Asian credentials) and his Marxist leanings make it very difficult for him to get a decent paying acadamic post in the UK. In S’pore, at least got bungalow (think the Youngs in Crazy Rich Asians) to live in.

WTF! With PAP on the ropes why this self-inflicted distraction?

In Malaysia on 01/09/2018 at 10:41 am

Own goal? Ownself sabo ownself?

PM and the PAP have been pummelled in recent weeks about ministers pay (When being a minister turns from a calling into a job for life),PM’s call to eat below S$3 meals and other frugality tips which show how out touch he is with the lives of those not “Crazy Rich Asians” (Shumething PM left out in NDR speech/ Reason why?) and on HDB flat “is not my HDB flat” (Exposed: Flaws in PM’s HDB spin)

So what do Tan Wah Piow, PJ Thum, Kirsten Han, Sonny Liew and Jolovan Wham, all prominent PAP haters and anti-PAP activists do?

They met Tun M and invited him (he’s accepted) to talk about democracy. WTF!

What were Tan Wah Piow, PJ Thum, Kirsten Han, Sonny Liew and Jolovan Wham thinking of when they made the decision to meet (And ask him to talk about democracy: he knows more about locking up and beat up people LOL. Ask Anwar.) someone who hates the very existence of S’pore as an independent state? Remember, he criticised Tunku for kicking us out of M’sia. He wanted Tunku to send in the army and arrest the leaders we elected.


Do read this: damned good article by the gal I love to make fun of: https://www.kirstenhan.com/blog/2018/8/30/80-minutes-with-dr-m

She should stick to reporting, not trying to a pseudo-intellectual justifying all ang moh progressive ideas.

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They are giving the PAP the opportunity to change the topic to “Who do you trust? PAP? Or Tun lovers, quislings, fifth columnists or their allies, fellow travellers or useful idiots?

The S’poreans that can be flipped (Why many PAP voters are ready to be flipped) may not be happy with the PAP, but they sure don’t like Tun: forever KPKBing about the supply of water to S’pore and who once threatened to cut off our water supply. And they know he has a problem with S’poreans, not juz the PAP. In his writings, he’s called us a few unfriendly names. It seems that when he was a medical student here, he was treated as an arrogant, obnoxious country bumpkin even by the local Malay elite. The memory must still rankle.

The PAP will use the meeting to tar all those opposed to PAP hegemony with the brush of “quisling” or “fifth columnist” or their allies, fellow travellers or useful idiots: some tar will stick.

PAP must be very happy that they can use this incident to discredit all anti-PAP and civil society activists, and critics of the way the PAP does things and thinks: “They are Tun lovers, quislings, fifth columnists, or their allies, fellow travellers or useful idiots.”

With enemies like the now Infamous 5 the PAP has nothing to worry about.

I’m not the only one concerned. Even anti-PAP Terry’s Online Channel is concerned:

As for Singaporeans, what are to make of all this?

We have to remember that Dr Mahathir has never been a fan of Singapore. Some would say he has had an axe to grind with the Singapore government, not the people of Singapore.

That may well be the case. But it not easy to separate one from the other.

In a nutshell, the well-being of Singaporeans cannot be uppermost in the mind of Dr Mahathir.”

https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2018/08/31/what-does-it-say-when-singaporeans-look-to-mahathir-to-bring-change-to-singapore/

Even regular TOC readers are KPKBing about the Infamous 5’s antics. Example

Singaporeans and the opposition parties should be warned not to get cozy with Dr M and the Malaysian politicians. It’s prudent to keep them at one arm’s length. We know we must be brave and decisive in the next GE, but pls leave msia out of our country’s politics. Never forget the bitter lessons we learnt from history. We are a tiny vulnerable nation in relative terms to our closest big neighbours. I will shun the opposition IF our they cowered to the malaysian politicians. In the battle against the mighty ruling party, bringing in a ‘big brother’ as a backing (?) is PLAYING WITH FIRE. This is not a strategy, it is suicide for the opposition and will open the floodgates to foreign intervention in our country.

Did Tan Wah Piow, PJ Thum, Kirsten Han, Sonny Liew and Jolovan Wham think of the implications of anti-PAP activists meeting someone who hates the very existence of S’pore as an independent state?  Someone forever KPKBing about the supply of water to S’pore and who once threatened to cut off our water supply.

Tan Wah Piow, PJ Thum, Kirsten Han, Sonny Liew and Jolovan Wham are the useful idiots (of the PAP), quislings or fifth columnists that all those of us who oppose PAP hegemony should be wary of.

What do you think?

FYI, more on Tun M

Tun slyer than Najib

One reason Tun wants to cause trouble with us on HSR

Two-face Tun/ Why vote PAP

HSR: I was right wasn’t I?