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Take advantage of these CPF facilities

In Financial competency, Financial planning on 30/07/2013 at 10:49 am

There are two facilities that S’poreans can take advantage off. The first is for oldies, the other for everyone

Using yr CPF a/c as yr savings, fixed deposit account

(Note that a version of u/m first appeared in 2011)

If you are in a position to withdraw money at age 55 from your CPF accounts, given the pathetic S$ interest rates offered by the banks, you may want to use your CPF Ordinary Account as a savings account or even as a fixed deposit account that pays higher than S$ bank or finance company fixed deposit rates.

But make sure you know how often a year you can withdraw your money if you want to use your OA as a savings account, or more accurately as a “betterest” way of managing your cash. The laziest way to find out is to call up the CPF help line.

You also have to be aware of the following: http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20110715-289391.html.

THE scheme is stated in the Central Provident Fund (CPF) website.

But Mr Jerry Low, 58, was not aware of it.

So the retired bank trader got a surprise when the CPF Board transferred $10,000 into his Medisave Account (MA) without his permission, after he applied to withdraw $37,000 from his Ordinary Account (OA) in June this year.

Mr Low had chosen to not withdraw all his money from his OA when he turned 55.

He opted for a partial withdrawal, leaving some money in his OA as the CPF interest rate of 2.5 per cent was higher than what the banks were offering.

He could do this as his Medisave Account and Retirement Account (RA) had the required amount.

Since 2008, Mr Low had used his Medisave to pay for some medical expenses, whittling away his Medisave Required Amount (MRA), which was $14,000 as of Jan 1, 2008.

However, the required amount was raised to $27,500 as of Jan 1 this year [2011].

Said Mr Low: “I was shocked to find that $10,000 from my OA had been moved to my MA without my approval.

“I did not even know that the money was moved, let alone the amount moved.”

As to the danger of the government not allowing you to withdraw your money by changing the rules yet again, assess the risk of the government taking this action in the light of it only getting 60% of the popular vote in the May 2011 GE, and it’s determination to win back Aljunied. Besides, the government actions, so far, on CPF issues, are never retrospective.

As to the CPF being or going bankrupt, remember that Tan Jee Say (25% of voters voted for him at the 2011 presidential election and he was once a senior civil servant specialising in economic matters) doesn’t worry about the solvency of the CPF system. To him, the S$60bn he proposed spending on his plans was “small change”. So the CPF amount due to members, as of August 2011, S$204 billion, cannot be an issue, despite what the SDP (his ex-party) and his supporters at TR and Singapore Election Watch say. Reminder: they say that the CPF is bankrupt because of the losses at Temasek and GIC. Hence the introduction of the Minimum Sum and CPF Life Plans schemes.

Did you know that until a few years ago, once you reached 55, the staff there hassled people to withdraw their surplus funds? It happened to a friend in 2004. He told them he as a Nantah graduate and retired central bank employee, trusted the S’pore government.

Now, the staff encourage people to keep funds they don’t need in their OAs.

BTW, when I first posted this, someone wrote in saying

If you leave money in OA after 55, very high chance you will not get out 100% later.

1. Good chance you will use Medisave for medical expenses after 55, necessitating topping up of MA from OA before you can take out.

2. Medisave Required Amount increases EVERY year on 1st Jan, in line with medical inflation during the previous 12 months. This has resulted about 5%-7% annual increase in MRA for the past few years.

So even if you don’t touch your Medisave after 55, you will need to top up the ever-increasing Medisave Required Amount before you’re allowed to withdraw your OA.

Unless your OA amount is large enough such that the yearly interests are sufficient to cover the yearly increase in MRA. But then, this will effectively reduce the 2.5%. Which defeats the purpose for why you left money in OA in the first place.

He has a gd point. My response is that Medisave account will be used and anyway it attracts 4% interest a yr.

Related post: https://atans1.wordpress.com/2011/12/03/best-cpf-life-plan/

Reading BT/ST financial stories for free

Readers may have noticed that I link to ST and BT financial stories (behind paywalls) via CPF.

Check out this link regularly http://www.cpf.gov.sg/imsavvy/infohub.asp if you want read, for free, to ST and BT financial stories.

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  2. Hmm, your retired central bank, ex Nantah friend doesn’t happen to have the initials of KBS? 🙄

  3. Unless we die from sudden death.

    Medisave can never be enough.

    It is okay to top up from CPF OA to CPF MA to earn higher compound interest.

  4. good post. Thank you. Yes the OA is always overlooked.

  5. I have been following your blog and Im surprised that you are going solo and not writing for prominent online publications.

    Boring usual anti-PAP shit is passé now.

    • No money leh. Why promote others’ brands. Besides I got TRE republishing some of my pieces. It my retail channel while I remain haute blogger, bit like elite merchant banking working with wire hses. )))

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